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by subfrommobile

Jun 9, 2012

Alabama teachers,

Is there any kind of program in this state that helps new teachers find jobs? I've been searching most of this year, and I haven't found much of anything. I graduated from the University of South Alabama with a degree in English / Secondary Education and am licensed to teach 6th-12th grade. I've searched all over Mobile County, though, and I haven't been able to find anything at all. I'm getting discouraged, and I don't really feel like anyone wants to hire a new English teacher.

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welcome to reality On 6/09/12, subfrommobile wrote: > Alabama teachers, > > Is there any kind of program in this state that helps new > teachers find jobs?

The programs are all aimed toward creating a glut so that teachers are plentifully available and can be underpaid and abused. They know they have created a glut. Why would they attempt to plac...See MoreOn 6/09/12, subfrommobile wrote: > Alabama teachers, > > Is there any kind of program in this state that helps new > teachers find jobs?

The programs are all aimed toward creating a glut so that teachers are plentifully available and can be underpaid and abused. They know they have created a glut. Why would they attempt to place teachers in a glutted market?

I've been searching most of this year, > and I haven't found much of anything.

Some of us have been warning people for years on this board that there is a glut of teachers. We get shouted down and insulted. The aspiring teachers when we warn them always say the same thing, basically this, "You are just a bitter failure who didn't get hired so you are trying to destroy my dream but nothing is going to stop me from becoming a teachers." And then the aspiring teachers always follow that up by thanking the people who encouraged them and told them to go ahead and become a teacher. Read some of the threads. They always go the same way. As an example, check out the thread on the Colorado board with Heather and Mitchell I think his name is.

I graduated from the > University of South Alabama with a degree in English / > Secondary Education and am licensed to teach 6th-12th > grade.

Glutted.

I've searched all over Mobile County, though, and I > haven't been able to find anything at all.

Because there is a glut of teachers.

I'm getting discouraged, and I don't really feel like anyone wants to > hire a new English teacher.

Not unless you are related to them or go to their church. Hiring in education is a lot of nepotism, especially in a glutted market. Although, it does not hurt to be young, female, and girl next door looking. Principal's like to hire simpletons who look passive, which is why they now hire whole batches of Filipina females--they don't just make good mail order brides, nannies and maids. They are really good for any job where you want someone who you think will keep their mouth shut and be helpless and powerless against their employer.

Jun 10, 2012

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lostsubteacher You aren't the first to tell me that I graduated only to enter a saturated market, so do you think that perhaps getting certified in additional subjects, like maybe math or science, would help?

Also, do you think my interviewing skills and general teaching skills have anything to do with it? I've gotten plenty of interviews, but things us...See MoreYou aren't the first to tell me that I graduated only to enter a saturated market, so do you think that perhaps getting certified in additional subjects, like maybe math or science, would help?

Also, do you think my interviewing skills and general teaching skills have anything to do with it? I've gotten plenty of interviews, but things usually fall apart when I'm asked to demonstrate a lesson. I can't do it, because I didn't prepare a lesson and have almost no experience teaching, so I can't make one up off of the top of my head.

Also, I heard what you said, but, what can I say? I wanted to become a teacher, and I'm willing to work to find a way in. Now, how might I get in? I've gotten this far, and I don't plan to give up unless I absolutely have to.

On 6/10/12, welcome to reality wrote: > On 6/09/12, subfrommobile wrote: >> Alabama teachers, >> >> Is there any kind of program in this state that helps new >> teachers find jobs? > > The programs are all aimed toward creating a glut so that > teachers are plentifully available and can be underpaid and > abused. They know they have created a glut. Why would they > attempt to place teachers in a glutted market? > > I've been searching most of this year, >> and I haven't found much of anything. > > Some of us have been warning people for years on this board > that there is a glut of teachers. We get shouted down and > insulted. The aspiring teachers when we warn them always say > the same thing, basically this, "You are just a bitter failure > who didn't get hired so you are trying to destroy my dream > but nothing is going to stop me from becoming a teachers." > And then the aspiring teachers always follow that up by > thanking the people who encouraged them and told them to go > ahead and become a teacher. Read some of the threads. They > always go the same way. As an example, check out the thread > on the Colorado board with Heather and Mitchell I think his > name is. > > I graduated from the >> University of South Alabama with a degree in English / >> Secondary Education and am licensed to teach 6th-12th >> grade. > > Glutted. > > I've searched all over Mobile County, though, and I >> haven't been able to find anything at all. > > Because there is a glut of teachers. > > I'm getting discouraged, and I don't really feel like anyone > wants to >> hire a new English teacher. > > Not unless you are related to them or go to their church. > Hiring in education is a lot of nepotism, especially in a > glutted market. Although, it does not hurt to be young, > female, and girl next door looking. Principal's like to hire > simpletons who look passive, which is why they now hire whole > batches of Filipina females--they don't just make good mail > order brides, nannies and maids. They are really good for any > job where you want someone who you think will keep their mouth > shut and be helpless and powerless against their employer.

Jun 11, 2012

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lostsubteacher is subfrommobile...oops lostsubteacher and subfrommobile are both nicknames that I use. Sorry for any confusion.

On 6/11/12, lostsubteacher wrote: > You aren't the first to tell me that I graduated only to enter a > saturated market, so do you think that perhaps getting certified > in additional subjects, like maybe math or science, would help? > >...See Morelostsubteacher and subfrommobile are both nicknames that I use. Sorry for any confusion.

On 6/11/12, lostsubteacher wrote: > You aren't the first to tell me that I graduated only to enter a > saturated market, so do you think that perhaps getting certified > in additional subjects, like maybe math or science, would help? > > Also, do you think my interviewing skills and general teaching > skills have anything to do with it? I've gotten plenty of > interviews, but things usually fall apart when I'm asked to > demonstrate a lesson. I can't do it, because I didn't prepare a > lesson and have almost no experience teaching, so I can't make > one up off of the top of my head. > > Also, I heard what you said, but, what can I say? I wanted to > become a teacher, and I'm willing to work to find a way in. Now, > how might I get in? I've gotten this far, and I don't plan to > give up unless I absolutely have to. > > > > On 6/10/12, welcome to reality wrote: >> On 6/09/12, subfrommobile wrote: >>> Alabama teachers, >>> >>> Is there any kind of program in this state that helps new >>> teachers find jobs? >> >> The programs are all aimed toward creating a glut so that >> teachers are plentifully available and can be underpaid and >> abused. They know they have created a glut. Why would they >> attempt to place teachers in a glutted market? >> >> I've been searching most of this year, >>> and I haven't found much of anything. >> >> Some of us have been warning people for years on this board >> that there is a glut of teachers. We get shouted down and >> insulted. The aspiring teachers when we warn them always say >> the same thing, basically this, "You are just a bitter failure >> who didn't get hired so you are trying to destroy my dream >> but nothing is going to stop me from becoming a teachers." >> And then the aspiring teachers always follow that up by >> thanking the people who encouraged them and told them to go >> ahead and become a teacher. Read some of the threads. They >> always go the same way. As an example, check out the thread >> on the Colorado board with Heather and Mitchell I think his >> name is. >> >> I graduated from the >>> University of South Alabama with a degree in English / >>> Secondary Education and am licensed to teach 6th-12th >>> grade. >> >> Glutted. >> >> I've searched all over Mobile County, though, and I >>> haven't been able to find anything at all. >> >> Because there is a glut of teachers. >> >> I'm getting discouraged, and I don't really feel like anyone >> wants to >>> hire a new English teacher. >> >> Not unless you are related to them or go to their church. >> Hiring in education is a lot of nepotism, especially in a >> glutted market. Although, it does not hurt to be young, >> female, and girl next door looking. Principal's like to hire >> simpletons who look passive, which is why they now hire > whole >> batches of Filipina females--they don't just make good mail >> order brides, nannies and maids. They are really good for any >> job where you want someone who you think will keep their mouth >> shut and be helpless and powerless against their employer.

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welcome to reality On 6/11/12, lostsubteacher wrote: > You aren't the first to tell me that I graduated only to enter a > saturated market, so do you think that perhaps getting certified > in additional subjects, like maybe math or science, would help?

It might help if you think you can pass the tests. But those fields are also pretty much glutted....See MoreOn 6/11/12, lostsubteacher wrote: > You aren't the first to tell me that I graduated only to enter a > saturated market, so do you think that perhaps getting certified > in additional subjects, like maybe math or science, would help?

It might help if you think you can pass the tests. But those fields are also pretty much glutted. Not as glutted as elementary or history, phys ed, etc so at least you will be improving your odds but the odds are still not good.

> > Also, do you think my interviewing skills and general teaching > skills have anything to do with it? I've gotten plenty of > interviews, but things usually fall apart when I'm asked to > demonstrate a lesson.

If that is holding you back then you need to sub for a while so you can get some practice. I normally think substitute teaching is a bad idea but if you are having trouble with giving a lesson or managing a classroom, that will at least give you a chance to practice.

I can't do it, because I didn't prepare a > lesson and have almost no experience teaching, so I can't make > one up off of the top of my head. > Also, I heard what you said, but, what can I say? I wanted to > become a teacher, and I'm willing to work to find a way in.

Well, that is what all the teacher hopefuls want. Some of them are not going to get it, not with the numbers being what they are. As long as you know the odds. A few people win but not everyone can. The consequences for those who lose are pretty bad.

Now, > how might I get in? I've gotten this far, and I don't plan to > give up unless I absolutely have to.

It is part determination and part luck of the draw unless you know somebody in a position to help you. I think subbing is your best chance. That might get some connections in the district and will give you some experience. The bad thing about subbing is that it can also burn bridges because if the students misbehave and you let them, you look bad. If the students misbehave and you get tough with them, you look bad. You might want to gain experience subbing first in a district that you DO NOT WANT to teach in so you can learn to navigate the shenanigans involved first and then start subbing in a district you do want to work in once you know which end is up.

> On 6/10/12, welcome to reality wrote: >> On 6/09/12, subfrommobile wrote: >>> Alabama teachers, >>> >>> Is there any kind of program in this state that helps new >>> teachers find jobs? >> >> The programs are all aimed toward creating a glut so that >> teachers are plentifully available and can be underpaid and >> abused. They know they have created a glut. Why would they >> attempt to place teachers in a glutted market? >> >> I've been searching most of this year, >>> and I haven't found much of anything. >> >> Some of us have been warning people for years on this board >> that there is a glut of teachers. We get shouted down and >> insulted. The aspiring teachers when we warn them always say >> the same thing, basically this, "You are just a bitter failure >> who didn't get hired so you are trying to destroy my dream >> but nothing is going to stop me from becoming a teachers." >> And then the aspiring teachers always follow that up by >> thanking the people who encouraged them and told them to go >> ahead and become a teacher. Read some of the threads. They >> always go the same way. As an example, check out the thread >> on the Colorado board with Heather and Mitchell I think his >> name is. >> >> I graduated from the >>> University of South Alabama with a degree in English / >>> Secondary Education and am licensed to teach 6th-12th >>> grade. >> >> Glutted. >> >> I've searched all over Mobile County, though, and I >>> haven't been able to find anything at all. >> >> Because there is a glut of teachers. >> >> I'm getting discouraged, and I don't really feel like anyone >> wants to >>> hire a new English teacher. >> >> Not unless you are related to them or go to their church. >> Hiring in education is a lot of nepotism, especially in a >> glutted market. Although, it does not hurt to be young, >> female, and girl next door looking. Principal's like to hire >> simpletons who look passive, which is why they now hire > whole >> batches of Filipina females--they don't just make good mail >> order brides, nannies and maids. They are really good for any >> job where you want someone who you think will keep their mouth >> shut and be helpless and powerless against their employer.

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