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Re: Is this for real?
Posted by OPPOSED TO PADDLING on 4/03/08
Hey Teachers Guess what teachers, I went to Catholic School when I was young. I got paddled too. It never worked for me. In fact I got my hands whacked over and over again because I am left handed. I also was put in the closet when i was bad and locked in there. So when I cam out and asked a question on a lesson I wouldn't know the answer (why? because I was in the closet and couldn't see the board !) So it became a self-fulfilling prophecy of failure for many years. You know why- all because I was left handed and Evil according to the nuns. All it made me was afraid and gave me anxiety and do poorly in class. Some kids do not do well with this at all. I still relive it adn I didn't learn a damn thing from it. There are much better ways to do discipline. Why don't you learn them. I was a pediatric nurse specialist for many years, and the American Medical Association has well documented evidence that paddling can cause violence later in life. There are well documented scientific studies. Violence begets violence. Positive reinforcement, team building, esteem building and rules with consequences evenly and consistently applied works. Oh I know its harder bu Try it sometime. Try telling the kids they will go to Saturday School if they don't do the work (remember the breakfast club?) signed,
by an adult abused by catholic corporal punishment as a child. On 1/25/08, Sue- High School Teacher wrote: > If parents did a good job of parenting, I doubt their kids would be getting in > trouble and thus, paddled. A stinging butt is a great deterrent and allows me > to teach the kids that want to learn. > > > > > On 1/20/08, Gosh, Singapore paddles adults. As I said before, wrote: >> On 1/12/08, Paddline causing more violence (read inside) wrote: >>> On 11/24/07, Paddling is common in my district, and if the parent wrote: >>>> On 11/24/07, Not an Arkansas teacher wrote: >>>>> I'm not trying to flame or be disagreeable; I'm really curious about >>>>> this. Paddling is technically still allowed in my state (Texas), but >>>>> I don't know of any place that still does it. I guess some of the >>>>> very small, rural districts may still swat. I haven't seen a paddle >>>>> in a school in over 20 years. >>>>> >>>>> Is it common in most Arkansas school districts? How often is a swat >>>>> actually given? Is the possibility of one enough for most kids? >>>>> No parents have tried to sue over it? The "Nospank.org" people >>>>> haven't been picketing? >>>> >>>> doesn't want their kid paddled, they can take their sweet, little >>>> darlings home with them. No suits that I know of. No picketing by >>>> anyone. maybe they should picket to make parents do their job of >>>> PARENTING. >>> >>> >>> Information contained in Figure 1 was taken from The National School >>> Safety Center’s Report on School Associated Violent Deaths (1992-2007). >>> This report defines a school-associated violent death as any homicide, >>> suicide, or weapons-related violent death in the United States in which a >>> fatal injury occurred. For this chart, the number of shooting deaths >>> occurring on school property and where the assailant was a student was >>> tabulated. The incidents were then categorized into those which occurred >>> in states where school paddling is permitted and those where it is not >>> permitted. Student shootings were more likely to occur in states where >>> school corporal punishment is permitted. >>> >>> A study by Doreen Arcus (2002) found that there were significantly more >>> fatal school shootings in states that permit corporal punishment in >>> schools than those that don’t. >>> >>> Arcus, Doreen (2002). School Shooting Fatalities and School Corporal >>> Punishment: A look at the states. Aggressive Behavior, 28, pp. 173-183. >>> National School Safety Center. (2007). School Associated Violent Deaths. >>> Westlake Village, CA: Dr. Ronald D. Stephens. >> >> parents can come get their sweet little darlings and take them home.
Posts on this thread, including this one
- Discipline Chart for Classroom Management, 11/13/07, by Susan.
- Re: Discipline Chart for Classroom Management, 11/14/07, by Paddle in the Saddle.
- Re: Is this for real?, 11/18/07, by Not an Arkansas teacher.
- Re: Is this for real?, 11/21/07, by Yes, some Arkansas schools still paddle and we do .
- Re: Is this for real?, 11/22/07, by Susan.
- Re: Is this for real?, 11/24/07, by Not an Arkansas teacher.
- Re: Is this for real?, 11/24/07, by Paddling is common in my district, and if the parent.
- Re: Is this for real?, 11/26/07, by It's more common in TEXAS than you think!.
- Re: Is this for real?, 11/26/07, by Ryan D..
- Re: This is just sad..., 12/04/07, by JJS.
- Re: This is just sad..., 12/08/07, by Paddle them now, or in a couple years.
- Re: This is just sad..., 12/09/07, by Liz.
- Re: This is just sad..., 12/10/07, by Dr. Spock (sp?) is alive & well on this board!.
- Re: This is just sad...But, 12/10/07, by johnv.
- Re: This is just sad...But, 12/10/07, by Do you really think moving a football on a board will cause.
- Re: This is just sad..., 12/13/07, by No wonder America is labeled 'STUPID IN AMERICA'.
- Re: This is just sad..., 12/13/07, by Maybe if Jonesboro had had a lovely positive incentive .
- Re: Jonesboro, 12/16/07, by JSS.
- Re: This is just sad..., 12/19/07, by Sandra.
- Re: Is this for real?, 12/19/07, by Sandra.
- Re: Paddling/Whipping in the early 1900s., 12/19/07, by Sandra.
- Re: Paddling/Whipping in the early 1900s., 12/20/07, by secondary teacher.
- Re: Well, guess what...., 12/21/07, by JSS.
- Re: Jonesboro, 12/24/07, by Nut, who said all schools in Arkanas paddle?.
- Re: Paddling/Whipping in the early 1900s., 12/24/07, by Let's just wait and let the police do it for us. They'll go.
- Re: Well, guess what...., 12/24/07, by Maybe you'll be the next one they'll kill. Lovely, huh?.
- Re: This is just sad..., 1/08/08, by children learn by example.
- Re: Is this for real?, 1/12/08, by Paddline causing more violence (read inside).
- Re: Is this for real?, 1/20/08, by Gosh, Singapore paddles adults. As I said before,.
- Re: Is this for real?, 1/25/08, by Sue- High School Teacher.
- Re: Is this for real?, 1/26/08, by We have 10-year-old females.
- Re: Is this for real?, 1/27/08, by Sue.
- Re: Discipline Chart for Classroom Management, 3/26/08, by Amy.
- Re: Is this for real?, 4/03/08, by OPPOSED TO PADDLING.
- Re: Is this for real?, 4/03/08, by To Susan.
- Re: Discipline Chart for Classroom Management, 4/03/08, by ooops -- the secrets out in Arkansa.
- Re: Is this for real?, 4/04/08, by johnv.
- Re: Is this for real?, 4/04/08, by to johnv.
- Re: Is this for real?, 4/04/08, by Susan.
- Re: Is this for real?, 4/05/08, by To Susan.
- Re: Is this for real?, 4/05/08, by Dear Susan.
- Re: Is this for real?, 4/06/08, by sharon.
- Re: Is this for real?, 4/06/08, by Laura.
- Re: Is this for real?, 4/07/08, by Why?.
- Re: Is this for real?, 4/07/08, by It is called ignorance.
- Re: To Laura, 4/07/08, by Chuck E.
- Re: To Laura, 4/07/08, by some just don't get it.
- Re: To Laura, 4/07/08, by Laura.
- Re: To Laura, 4/07/08, by What doesn't Laura get?.
- Re: Is this for real?, 4/07/08, by You did WHAT!!!.
- Re: Is this for real?, 4/07/08, by You asked your superior for a paddling??!!.
- Re: Is this for real?, 4/07/08, by susan.
- Re: Is this for real?, 4/07/08, by susan.
- Re: Is this for real?, 4/07/08, by Chuck E.
- Re: To Laura, 4/08/08, by IF this is true, which I doubt.
- Re: Is this for real?, 4/08/08, by A Typical non answer.
- Re: To Laura, 4/08/08, by Chuck E.
- Re: Sickos in Ark., 4/08/08, by Sane Displaced Person.
- Re: Sickos in Ark., 4/08/08, by AMAZING!!.
- Re: Sickos in Ark., 4/08/08, by Chuck E.
- Re: Sickos in Ark., 4/08/08, by Try Atlanta on for size.
- Re: Paddling, 4/09/08, by susan.
- Re: Paddling, 4/10/08, by Not Buying It.
- Re: Paddling, 4/10/08, by Regular Poster.
- Re: Sickos in Ark., 4/11/08, by An Apologist for the Bare Butt Teacher!?lol.
- Re: Sickos in Ark., 4/11/08, by Chuck E.
- Re: Sample Paddling, 4/12/08, by Arkansa Education is a Public Embarassment.
- Re: Sickos in Ark., 4/12/08, by dj.
- Re: Paddling, 4/12/08, by Susan.
- Re: Little Rock- No Paddling, 4/20/08, by Little Rock Teacher.
- Re: Little Rock- No Paddling, 4/20/08, by Pulaski County Teacher.
- Re: Little Rock- No Paddling, 4/20/08, by Pulaski County Teacher.
- Re: Sickos in Ark., 4/20/08, by You totally missed his point you silly goose!.
- Re: Little Rock- No Paddling, 4/22/08, by anon.
- Re: Paddling, 4/28/08, by Gumby.
- Re: Paddling, 4/28/08, by susan.
- Re: Paddling, 4/30/08, by Bubba Budda.
- Re: Paddling, 5/01/08, by Right Wing Christian Conservative with an opinion.
- Re: Paddling, 5/01/08, by Only in Ark. would we be having this big debate!.
- Re: Paddling, 5/01/08, by Six months ago it was ISS. Talk about not working!.
- Re: Paddling, 5/01/08, by Bubba Budda.
- Re: Paddling, 5/01/08, by Bubba Budda.
- Re: Paddling, 5/01/08, by yeah right!!!.
- Re: Paddling, 5/01/08, by Somebody needs to read the New Testament.
- Re: Paddling, 5/01/08, by a frequent reader and a Christian, proud of it.
- Re: Discipline Chart for Classroom Management, 5/08/08, by Jennifer.
- Re: Discipline Chart for Classroom Management, 5/10/08, by anon.
- Re: Discipline Chart for Classroom Management, 5/10/08, by anonymous.
- Re: Discipline Chart for Classroom Management, 5/10/08, by Don't bother coming to Georgia.
- Re: Discipline Chart for Classroom Management, 5/11/08, by Jacqui Hawkins.
- Re: Discipline Chart for Classroom Management, 5/12/08, by PCH.
- Re: Discipline Chart for Classroom Management, 5/16/08, by Seattle Dad & counselor.
- Re: Is this for real?, 5/21/08, by John.
- Re: Is this for real?, 5/22/08, by anon.
- Re: Is this for real?, 5/23/08, by Brittany.
- Re: Is this for real?, 5/23/08, by Ashamed in AR.
- Re: Is this for real?, 5/26/08, by conservative christian.
- Re: Is this for real?, 5/26/08, by time to leave the south.
- Re: Is this for real?, 5/26/08, by it can't be for real.
- Re: Is this for real?, 5/27/08, by Pick the Interstate with an uneven number!.
- Re: Is this for real?, 5/27/08, by conservative christian.
- Re: Is this for real?, 7/02/08, by Keith.
- Re: Is this for real?, 7/21/08, by dean.
- Re: To Laura, 7/21/08, by dean.
- Re: Paddling/Whipping in the early 1900s., 7/21/08, by dean.
- Re: Discipline Chart for Classroom Management, 7/30/08, by Sandra.
- Re: Discipline Chart for Classroom Management, 7/31/08, by rick.
- Re: Discipline Chart for Classroom Management, 7/31/08, by dean.
- Re: Discipline Chart for Classroom Management, 8/13/08, by Kelly.
- Re: Discipline Chart for Classroom Management, 8/13/08, by DEAN.
- Re: Discipline Chart for Classroom Management, 8/13/08, by Why Dean?.
- Re: Discipline Chart for Classroom Management, 8/15/08, by Stephanie Ar.
- Re: Discipline Chart for Classroom Management, 8/15/08, by dean.
- Re: Discipline Chart for Classroom Management, 8/19/08, by dEbra AP167.
- Re: Discipline Chart for Classroom Management, 8/19/08, by dean.
- Re: Discipline Chart for Classroom Management, 8/20/08, by dEbra AP167 .
- Re: Discipline Chart for Classroom Management, 8/20/08, by dean.
- Re: Discipline Chart for Classroom Management, 8/21/08, by What do you want to discus, Dean?.
- Re: Discipline Chart for Classroom Management, 8/21/08, by Are you Rick? or Dean?.
- Re: Discipline Chart for Classroom Management, 8/21/08, by Laura.
- Re: Discipline Chart for Classroom Management, 8/21/08, by dean.
- Re: Discipline Chart for Classroom Management, 8/21/08, by Laura.
- Re: Discipline Chart for Classroom Management, 8/21/08, by dean.
- Re: What do you want to talk about, Dean?, 8/21/08, by or is it Rick?.
- Re: What do you want to talk about, Dean?, 8/23/08, by Dean.
- Re: Discipline Chart for Classroom Management, 11/12/08, by Bob AP.
- Re: Discipline Chart for Classroom Management, 11/12/08, by tom.
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