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Re: Abuse in Shirley Elementary by Cindy Coleman
Posted by Mr.B on 4/04/08

    On 4/03/08, Well Mr. B wrote:
    > These appear to be younger kids- elementary age. If I ever
    > found out my kid was scrubbing toilets in a public building such
    > as this I would have a fit. And I hope none of those kids have
    > any underlying heart conditions. Ever think of that , smart guy?
    >
    > I think there is a definition of punishment and a definition of
    > abuse that needs to be addressed by public schools. Educators
    > with college degrees seem to have a problem with something
    > called common sense. And public policy of public schools should
    > be clearly defined so parents don't have to worry about it. BUT
    > it will take til hell freezes over when that happens. I don't
    > mind discipline for my children, but the end result is what did
    > the kid learn from the designated discipline. There is a fine
    > line between discipline and punishment.
    >
    > Its a public school not a military school. And Coaching
    > Athletics is not the same thing. What age did you say you
    > coached? I am sorry but I pay taxes for the simple reason to
    > have schools operate the right way and I would expect janitors
    > and hired help to clean bathrooms, not to have free child labor.
    > And then they say 'it didn't happen' ....yeah right. CYA mode to
    > me.
    > I would love to find out what they were actually being punished
    > for, because often the punishment doesn't fit the crime. What
    > did they do, call a teacher a poo poo head..
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > On 4/03/08, Mr. B wrote:
    >> On 4/03/08, Can you post the link wrote:
    >>> This is happening in many places. It needs to be exposed..
    >>> Send it to national media....
    >>>
    >>> martha@foxnews.com
    >>> show.livedesk@foxnews.com
    >>> yourcomments@foxnews.com
    >>>
    >>> They are covering a lot of education issues lately.
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> On 3/09/08, Fox wrote:
    >>>> Children are being abused in Shirley Elementary School and
    >>>> it is in the Arkansas Times newspaper. Kids were first
    >>>> forced to run stairs outside the building for nearly an
    >>>> hour with out their parents being notified. These kids
    >>>> were punished i this way for losing conduct points of 10
    >>>> points or more. Conduct points were for talking out of
    >>>> turn or chewing gum or not turning in complete work.
    >>> Even
    >>>> worse than this a young girl was made to clean the
    >>>> bathrooms twice a day for a few days with a tooth brush
    >>> and
    >>>> it was only found out when the child was taken to the Dr
    >>>> for medical treatment. The school says it didnt happen
    >>>> but we know it did. In the Arkansas Times the Principal
    >>>> and Superintendent admit to having kids clean bathrooms.
    >>>>
    >>>> Discipline is one thing and abuse is another.
    >>
    >>
    >> Some of you seem to have a skewed idea of what "abuse" is.
    >> The students are responsible for following the established
    >> rules or they suffer the punishment. They are always free to
    >> change schools if their families so desire.
    >> For two years under one PE coach, we were required to run
    >> laps until we vomited. Although unpleasant, not one student
    >> was harmed because of this "abuse.

     
     

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