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    Re: Differences between PHX and Tucson
    Posted by: Condier this on 9/30/09

    Hey, everyone -- consider THIS: There are no NCATE-accredited
    teacher preparation institutions in AZ (although I have my fingers
    crossed that NAU gets through the process successfully),

    Arizona is a Right To Work (for a low wage) state which translates
    into low wages,

    And -- not only does the state superintendent of Public Schools
    never have to have been a teacher---- those sneaky-Petes at the capitol
    just passed legislation that says that the Superintendent of the School
    District does not have to be a certified teacher.

    Hmmm --- sounds suspiciously like a couple of things --- that the ABCTE
    slam-dunk certification thing is only a vote away (look it up -- it's
    offensive) -- and that Certain Politicians think that traditional
    public schools are a thing of the past and are hoping to further the
    Charter School Movement ( Were their budgetary losses as significant as
    ours? Nope)

    So -- in essence -- I agree with the very first poster about this -- in
    that these fools got voted in --- (and there are red/blue reasons
    behind it because people here aren't necessarily "issues" voters --
    they vote the Party Lines.

    What we need are Viable Pro-Public Education Candidates for elected
    offices and we need to get behind them with votes to win!

    Every educational decision is a political decision. Always will be.

    On a side note -- a former teacher is running for State Superintendent
    of Public Schools -- check her out!!

    Penny Kotterman for AZ Superintendent of Public Instruction

    On 9/30/09, Think about it wrote:
    > It's not the "schools" per se it's the TEACHER EDUCATION down
    > here! Do you know how many Professional Development days I've gone
    > to where I started to roll my eyes thinking "But, I've already been
    > trained with this several years ago"????? It's shameful.
    > The 'south' has always been slower than other parts of the nation.
    > Just a fact. And not just in education.
    >
    > You cannot say blue vs red is why things are bad. I came from a
    > blue state and while it wasn't as bad as AZ education (not even
    > near it), there are still some pretty messed up things because that
    > state is a "blue" state for the most part.
    >
    >
    > On 9/29/09, AZsucks wrote:
    >> I agree that AZ is awful, and terribly far behind in many
    >> areas. The schools are at least a year or so behind Michigan,
    >> and I find many people in general to be less educated here.
    >> That is one of the many reasons I am leaving.
    >>
    >> The schools are poorly run, and lacking many resources. The
    >> teacher quality is the worst I have ever seen! They are almost
    >> last when it comes to education. I didn't believe how bad the
    >> schools are until I saw it with my own eyes.
    >>
    >> On 9/29/09, Your post is not logical. wrote:
    >>> By your reasoning, education in red states should be all bad
    >>> and education in blue states should be all good. So how do
    >>> you explain the many states that violate this rule of yours?
    >>>
    >>> On 9/29/09, former Vermonter wrote:
    >>>> I've read a lot of posts about how bad AZ is and how great
    >>>> New England is and truthfully folks AZ has made their own
    >>>> bed and now they have to lie in it. You voted this state
    >>>> legislature in people. WHY? It's sad but true but a large
    >>>> part of this state is "Red" and YES it does make a
    >>>> difference. If you come from a "BLUE" state you see
    >>>> EVERYTHING different because things are different. Respect,
    >>>> integrity, and education Wake up AZ Vote the creeps out and
    >>>> if you don't you have no one to blame but yourselves...
    >>>

    Penny Kotterman for AZ Superintendent of Public Instruction


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    Posts on this thread, including this one

  • Differences between PHX and Tucson, 9/29/09, by former Vermonter.
  • Re: Differences between PHX and Tucson, 9/29/09, by Your post is not logical..
  • Re: Differences between PHX and Tucson, 9/29/09, by AZsucks .
  • Re: Differences between PHX and Tucson, 9/30/09, by Think about it.
  • Re: Differences between PHX and Tucson, 9/30/09, by Condier this.
  • Re: Differences between PHX and Tucson, 9/30/09, by Consider this!.
  • Re: Differences between PHX and Tucson, 9/30/09, by It's both.
  • Re: Differences between PHX and Tucson, 9/30/09, by dm.

     
     

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