jamil

Posted on 10/29/09

I have visions of teachers going into homes with checklists and
examining the refrigerator, the number of occupants, the suspected
presence of illegal immigrants that we are taught to identify by the
clothing they wear or the way they speak English. I have lived in
cities in the Northeast and would not venture into the housing projects
up there. I wouldn't think of going into most of the homes of the
students I teach down here. Many of the parents are gang members or
wanna-bes. This is another hair-brained idea akin to allowing teachers
to carry guns in the classroom. If the legislators feel that we have the
spare time then the time can be better spent then going into private
homes. Going into private homes would just make us another branch of
the police or Arpaio's group.

On 10/29/09, wow... wrote:
> Sounds like everyone needs to cool off and listen to each other
> better. I would completely agree with Jamil. From what I understand
> and saw in his first reply about this issue, he is not saying he
> WOULDN'T do his duty, but that the focus is more on not wanting to
> play that role, which quite frankly, teachers should not have to do.
>
> Correct, we are NOT social workers, that's what school social workers
> are for. Home visits should not be a part of a teacher's duty list,
> and if it ever becomes a requirement, I would think that teacher has
> the right to be accompanied by another staff member. It's incredulous
> that a school district would make that an obligation of a teacher.
> Completely uncalled for.
>
> On 10/29/09, another Arizona teacher wrote:
>> This is exactly why I feel like I have to get out of teaching in
>> Arizona. Not only is it no longer safe, there are plenty of people
>> who think that teacher equals martyr. Teachers deserve to
> have a
>> full life outside of their work obligations. I've lost
>> relationships over the amount of personal time I've given to
>> teaching. No more!
>>
>> Jamil, I also agree with your post. Regardless of how much you want
>> to help your students, you should not be responsible for analyzing
>> and reporting every detail of these people's lives. I get the
>> feeling that you are so conscientious that you would feel as if
>> you in fact you need to report all the problems you saw. That's how
>> I read your original post. And what a major responsibility that
>> would be! That isn't what a teacher is trained to do.
>>
>> On 10/29/09, ap wrote:
>>> Dear hmmm, you wrote:
>>>
>>> "What concerned me, was the FACT that
>>> you said you WOULDN'T REPORT something."
>>>
>>>
>>> My post was explaining why jamil is afraid to report.
>>> Do you get it?
>>> AFRAID
>>> AFRAID
>>> AFRAID
>>>
>>> not lazy
>>> not a matter of not wanting to get involved
>>> not a matter of not caring
>>>
>>> In our district, parents can come after you with a vengence.
>>> My husband had a father come at him with a hockey stick in an
>>> empty locker room.
>>> In our district, they own guns and knives and know how to use
>>> them.
>>> There are legitimate reasons for not reporting.
>>> Yes, it's illegal not to report. We all get that.
>>> That's only one reason why we don't want to visit our students'
>>> home.
>>> Let the admin. tag along and let THEM report.
>>>
>>> Comprendo?
>>> Capiche?
>>> Get it?

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