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    Re: Job outlook unreal for teachers

    Posted by: janmil on 11/12/09
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    It is said that history repeats itself. Back in the '70's when I
    graduated from college there were absolutely no jobs for
    teachers. I had to change my job expectations at that point.
    The computer industry was starting to grow at that point and I
    was able to get into the field and I made quite a bit of money.
    However my dream of teaching never left and I switched careers
    about 10 years ago. Made half the money I made in the computer
    field but I was happier. I was a master teacher there. I came
    from a state that valued education in the northeast. I made a
    decent living. Then I went to Arizona. An absolute shock.
    Education and teachers are not valued commodities here. Yet to
    grow we have to have an educated population. Arizona cannot
    exist as a service industry state only. A generation from now
    Arizona will be a welfare state because a large majority of the
    population cannot support itself.

    On 11/12/09, Nadine wrote:
    >
    >> AZ worst economy in the nation
    >> The supermarket strike - these people should be where I am
    >> at - no union - no help - they are out of their minds
    >> walking off in this mess!
    >
    > The one nugget I hope that you learn from this is that
    > Every Educational Decision is a Political Decision.
    >
    >
    >
    > I'm sad, too and 've been here a while. This is kind of a
    > "good news, bad news" situation.
    >
    > First -- the good news: There is a Teachers' Union here and we
    > are currently seeking members -- there should be a link to
    > use -- but here's the address:
    >
    > http://www.arizonaea.org/
    >
    > The Arizona Education Association
    >
    > and we have membership options to fit just about every
    > teaching (or non-teaching) situation.
    >
    > Now -- the bad news - Arizona is a "Right to Work" state --
    > and what that means is that joining the union cannot be a
    > condition of employment. What it also means is that membership
    > tends to be low. The way the law is written -- an employer
    > doesn't have to recognize a bargaining unit unless membership
    > is at 30% or higher. Reading the public commentary on the
    > Republic's website about the impending strike is a huge
    > mistake because of the anti-union sentiment that people
    > express. Right to work, in my opinion -- means right to work
    > for a low wage - with no protections.
    >
    >
    > Not to mention that a large portion of state funds comes from
    > Sales Tax (how smart is that?!) -- if you haven't noticed,
    > property taxes are quite low -- and loopholes, tax credits,
    > and tax cuts for businesses & the wealthy are plentiful.
    > (Guess what? -- a political decision)
    >
    >
    > I've had the privilege to work in a "bargaining" state before
    > coming to AZ -- and working conditions (and pay) were
    > considerably better. I also got into teaching when the job
    > market was highly competitive. I took a job in a parochial
    > school so that I could at least use my degree while I waited
    > to get into public school (and yes, I joined their teachers'
    > association). My salary nearly doubled when I got a job in
    > public schools. And then I moved here.... I had no idea....
    >
    > The biggest thing that has happened -- and I'm deeply saddened
    > to know that not very many professors have shared this with
    > students -- is how the budget crisis has effected the job
    > market for teachers in AZ. The most recent thing that has
    > happened is that we have lost seniority rights and (not
    > 'tenure' -- we still have the right to Due Process) and the
    > Preferred right to recall is gone, and the districts can
    > change the salary of any teacher at any time for any reason.
    > The dates to notify a teacher if she/he has a job for the
    > following year are gone.
    >
    > So, you are right -- the outlook isn't good -- it wasn't good
    > when I graduated, either. There are plenty of jobs you can
    > take (if you are appropriately certified) outside of the
    > public school setting until things look better.
    >
    >
    > And PAY attention to what your legislators are doing!! Let
    > them know how you feel -- and next November -- Vote!! Because
    > -- Every Educational Decision is a Political Decision -- any
    > way you slice it.
    >
    > I am annoyed,though, that districts are turning away
    > applicants to sub -- we've gotten word at least 3 times in the
    > last 2 weeks that no subs are available for a certain day/date
    > and if we needed to be absent, they would have to split our
    > classes.... Really?! A discussion for another day.
    >
    > Wish I had better news. Nadine
     

     


    Posts on this thread, including this one

  • Job outlook unreal for teachers, 11/11/09, by sadteach.
  • Re: Job outlook unreal for teachers, 11/12/09, by Nadine.
  • Re: Job outlook unreal for teachers, 11/12/09, by janmil.
  • Re: Job outlook unreal for teachers, 11/12/09, by Agreed.
  • Re: Job outlook unreal for teachers, 11/12/09, by Agreed...again.
  • Re: Job outlook unreal for teachers, 11/13/09, by janmil.

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