Re: arizona teacher salary

On 11/16/09, Rob wrote:
> On 11/16/09, janmill wrote:
>> I have heard of this legislation that was passed. Do
>> you know when this bill that allows a district to
>> lower a teacher's salary? Are these legislators
>> living in the real world and are they aware that
>> there are not many people that would realistically
>> take a job where the salary could be lowered each
>> year. I would like to know the legislators that voted
>> this in.
>>
>> On 11/16/09, Just tried to help wrote:
>>> Oh well, so much for trying to help someone. It may
>>> not have sounded right, but thought I was trying to
>>> do the right thing. Enjoy your time teaching in AZ.
>>>
>>> On 11/16/09, AZ Elementary Teacher wrote:
>>>> lol that was quite entertaining with the lame
>>>> comparison of sports stars to teachers.
>>>> um...hello, sports stars make more than most
>>>> anyone :::rolling eyes::::

This is not a good state to teach in. Legislators have
always lied about their committment to students, education
and teachers. This year they let their emotions get the
best of them. As a way of punishing the teachers for
marching on the capitol last year they displayed their
disdain for education, students, and teachers with the
newest legislation, House Bill 2011. If they dare to
imply that they care about education or teachers it would
akin to listening to Bill Clinton say that he did not have
sex with that woman. In my opinion,Arizona is a great
place to live. Arizona has incredible teachers.
Education in Arizona is deplorable. Salaries are
deplorable. Working conditions for teachers are
deplorable. Teacher morale is not good. We would all do
well to teach in 3rd world countries where we are
appreciated and valued. You owe me! I may have just
saved your life.
>>>>
>>>> Here are some numbers: I am in my 3rd year and
>>>> make roughly $28K. This may vary depending on
>>>> districts. My district doesn't pay for years of
>>>> experience.
>
>
>>>>
>>>> Cost of living varies, again, depending where you
>>>> are located. I'm in a city where I *thought* the
>>>> rent would be decent because there are a lot of
>>>> low-income families but alas, I pay $650 for a
>>>> run down 2 bedroom apartment.
>>>>
>>>> I would highly suggest having a job here before
>>>> you move. There are going to be more cuts for
>>>> next year and last year, 1st year teachers were
>>>> on the chopping block.
>>>>
>>>> On 11/16/09, ap wrote:
>>>>> um, hello? sports starts make more than ANY
>>>>> teacher in ANY state!!!!!
>>>>>
>>>>> Starting salary hovers around $30,000---varies
>>>>> by district. What is really bad is that it
>>>>> never gets very high. With a masters degree and
>>>>> more and more hours above that, you may hit
>>>>> $70,000, after about 20 years. Be very
>>>>> careful-----our lawmakers recently passsed
>>>>> legislation that severely affects teachers.
>>>>> This sounds incredible, but it's true: A school
>>>>> district can now lower a teacher's salary at
>>>>> any time for no real reason. Most teachers see
>>>>> a decrease in pay year after year after year,
>>>>> even before this silly provision was passed.
>>>>> Due to huge increases in medical insurance and
>>>>> increased contributions to state retirement
>>>>> (both mandatory) teachers keep getting pay
>>>>> cuts.
>>>>>
>>>>> While I find the comparison to athletes' salary
>>>>> laughable, the other poster was correct. Think
>>>>> very, very carefully before moving here to
>>>>> teach. It is a bad, bad state for education!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 11/16/09, No longer a teacher in AZ wrote:
>>>>>> If you are thinking of moving to AZ to be a
>>>>>> teacher, please reconsider. Arizona doesn't
>>>>>> pay its teachers enough. Sports stars make
>>>>>> more than the teachers in that state. I
>>>>>> taught and lived there for ten years and
>>>>>> never made what I was worth.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The cost of living is out of control as well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 11/16/09, intersted wrote:
>>>>>>> Can anyone give me an idea of what a first
>>>>>>> year techer makes in AZ? I am thinking
>>>>>>> about relocating to AZ and just received my
>>>>>>> degree in elementary ed. Any advise?