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I think you misunderstood "anon". I don't believe he/she was talking
about competition for jobs, but simply for the "alternate route"
training program itself in regards to "traditional route" teachers. NYC
Teaching Fellows will not allow an already credentialed teacher (be it
from NY or another state) to be in that program because it is a program
specifically for "career changers". It certainly doesn't mean a
"traditional route" person from another state can't teach in NYC, they
simply have a completely different application path for someone already
credentialed (since they wouldn't need to take all the 'training
courses', etc. that NYC Teaching Fellows involves).
In most states, this is true of their "alternate route" programs as well
(can't be taken by already credentialed teachers). It doesn't mean that
an already credentialed teacher from another state is at a disadvantage,
in fact, it's usually the other way around; they just can't use the
"alternate route" as a way to change to that state's credential. I
think he/she was talking about, that is resentment about an "alternate
route" training program letting in teachers already licensed elsewhere,
not resentment about competing with them for jobs, most "alternate
route" programs only deal with shortage areas anyway since that's what
they're usually designed for.
On 10/08/09, from OP -- still looking for grant options/ reply to "anon"
wrote:
> acctually, i know people who have gotten jobs from ARC in special ed.
> the reason I posted here was b/c I know the program exists in CT, and
> yes you can get a cross endorsement in sped if you are already
> certified in CT. I can't speak for other states but I have researched
> the program in CT. I was wondering if anyone knew of GRANT money or
> SCHOLARSHIPS for teachers wishing to get licensed to teach sped, a
> big shortage area in CT.
>
> as for career changers resenting teachers already cert. in the
> program, too bad! I doubt also that other states wont let in
> profeessional teachers b/c of this.... CT at least is trying to get
> qualified teachers to fill its shortage areas, which is why they hav
> started the cross cert program for teachers. It is hard enough for
> experienced, credentialed teachers to get positions in the state, so
> those career changers are going to go to the back of the line,
> regardless. Unless of course they want to teach in one of the
> gang-ridden high schools deep in Bridgport or Hartford.
>
> still wondering if anyone has any info on getting private money --
> not loans necessarily, as I already have enough of those.
>
> looks like th CT board is pretty sloooowwww in general, as not much
> activity on the board since my last post.
>
>
> On 8/30/09, Anonymous wrote:
>> When did you graduate ARC? I am hearing that except for this
>> year's group, most of the math people actually got jobs in the
>> end (though often in the inner cities, but that's true about a
>> lot of alternate route programs....it's all supply vs. demand).
>
>
>> I am not sure you can enter ARC if you've already done a
>> certification program. Most other states' similar programs (i.e.
>> NYC Teaching Fellows) will not let you in. I think unlike most
>> of these programs ARC will, I know there were a lot of private
>> school teachers and L/T subs in my class, though the people who
>> were truly "career changing" resented those people thinking they
>> will keep them from getting a job (one reason most programs do
>> not allow this).
>>
>> Also, I'm not sure ARC has a Special Ed program per se.
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