On 10/15/09, Flteacher wrote:
> That is too bad you are disgusted. I did not state that non-
> teachers do not deserve any part of the bonus- I wrote that
> there should be a difference in the bonus.
>
> I believe all are an integral part of a child's education;
> however, without the teacher planning, teaching, and evaluating
> there will be no learning gains for the student. A student will
> not make learning gains by having clean counters. Do clean
> counters help? Absolutely...I'm cleaning most of them now that
> our custodians have been cut but the learning gains are due to
> my work outside and inside of the classroom that generates the
> bonus. I just finished graduate school, plan and grade for hours-
> all outside of school hours. If the para at your school would
> like all the extra work plus an equal amount of the bonus, she
> needs to go back to school. We all get a paycheck for the time
> we are at school. The bonus, I feel, is for doing extra-
> increasing personal education, grading, data inputting,
> planning, researching, cleaning, calling parents, dealing with
> administration, conferences, and the list goes on. I can only
> speak for my school when I write this- the custodians,
> assistants, cafeteria workers walk out of school right on time,
> every day, and empty handed. Your school sounds a lot different.
> I really appreciate our workers but they do get paid for what
> they do.
>
> I think things maybe a lot different this next year when A+
> money will be based on many more things than this year. Next
> year it will be based on cafeteria food, cleanliness, etc. and
> then it really will be a team effort. Until then, I am the one
> that raised my FCAT reading scores by 15 points and I believe it
> deserves just a dollar more.
>
>
>
> On 10/15/09, broward teacher wrote:
>> On 10/13/09, FLteacher wrote:
>>> This might be more of a rant but does anyone else feel
>>> resentful that they have to split evenly the A+ money with
>>> the rest of the staff? I find it unbelievable that my
>>> principal feels what teachers do is equal to the person
>>> making rolls in my school. I definately feel the cafeteria
>>> workers, custodians, support staff, etc. do a great job and
>>> should get some of the bonus...but equal? It's just
>>> insulting. Please don't say contact the union or this
>>> should go to a vote- we've already tried and she becomes
>>> vindictive if it is brought up. I know, I should be
>>> thankful I have a job. I am. I just can't believe all the
>>> nights and weekends I have given up to grading and planning
>>> and my educational level is not a factor in giving me the
>>> courtesy of just a dollar more than a cafeteria worker. Do
>>> you think that worker is spending weekend time looking up
>>> recipes to improve the cafeteria performance? I hope so.
>>
>> I couldn't disagree more. What's insulting to the point of
>> disgusting to me is that the job of the teacher is considered
>> more important to a child's education than the jobs done by
>> paraprofessionals, interpreters, custodians, or cafeteria
>> workers--or that they are considered more important by
>> society. If you wanted me to clean a toilet or slave over a
>> hot stove, you'd have to start around 7 figures. Instead, we
>> have a backwards view of what is of value in our society,
>> where being pretty and reading a teleprompter is worth
>> millions; but the dirtiest, most undesirable tasks make the
>> least amount of money.
>>
>> After taxes and health insurance for her family,one of the
>> paras at my school, who has been there for over 20 years
>> brings home $200 every two weeks. To say that she should get
>> a smaller piece of a free pie than I do would make me very
>> ashamed, and makes me wonder about teachers whose students
>> come from parents whose jobs are considered menial.
>>
>> Try teaching for just a month with no one coming to clean up
>> vomit,empty trash, restrain an out of control kid, or feed
>> the children, and then you'll have an idea of how vital they
>> are to children's academic success

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