ok, let me try to point out my confusion...

>>To truly understand science you need to have background in it,
--isnt this true of all subjects?

>>you need to understand the nature of science(no, not the scientific
method), --i think i am capable of understanding the nature of
science. i think if i picked up a science textbook and studied it
for a few weeks, i could teach it (i currently teach HS math).

>>how labs are designed and the expected results and why those
results might be different. -- this refers to statistical methods
-- something i had plenty of in college (i have a masters degree)
-- but my only college "science" was astronomy. (technically, my
"science" was statistics -- i do have a master of science, after
all)

>>Also if you are teaching a higher level science (chemistry, bio,
physics, etc) you really need to have taken college level courses.
-- this is probably a good idea, but i don't think its necessary.
again, i believe i can capably learn the material and teach it.

>> There is a reason that science is the only subject that has
INDIVIDUAL subject tests! -- do you mean it has separate tests for
chem, physics, & bio? i think math should be divided that way too.
geometry, algebra and calculus should all be separate.

i am not trying to be argumentative, but alex asked, so i answered.

On 10/22/09, Alex wrote:
> Really? I didn't find the post confusing at all.. What part did
> you have trouble with? I thought it was to the point, written with
> passion, and this person had strong convictions in their beliefs..
>
> On 10/22/09, huh? wrote:
>> i'm not criticizing -- everyone should be entitled to vent...
>> but the logic in your post is confusing.
>>
>> On 10/22/09, ScienceTeacher wrote:
>>> I am just venting here and I know that there will be people
>>> who disagree with me. I am just so tired of people trying to
>>> get certified in science (of any kind) when they have NO
>>> background in science. I know people are doing it because
>>> they are either trying to get hired or they want job
>>> security. Whatever the reason.. Did it ever occur to you
>>> why there is a shortage of those teachers(although that is
>>> not true anymore)?? Science is not the SAME as teaching
>>> English, history or any other subject! To truly understand
>>> science you need to have background in it, you need to
>>> understand the nature of science(no, not the scientific
>>> method), how labs are designed and the expected results and
>>> why those results might be different. Also if you are
>>> teaching a higher level science (chemistry, bio, physics,
>>> etc) you really need to have taken college level courses.
>>> There is a reason that science is the only subject that has
>>> INDIVIDUAL subject tests! I'm sick of people thinking
>>> anyone is qualified to teach it. I do not consider myself
>>> qualified for English? Why would an English teacher or
>>> history teacher be qualified to teach science?

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