Could you tell me what state/ town you are in?

I have checked a few northern states on here and realize how tough
things are up there (and this was the case before the economy went
south) I've researched NH, NJ, PA, and NY so far.
We aren't going to make a move without getting a job set up first or
course(and then I'm the type to worry that it will fall through). We
will also have a good amount of cash from the sale of our house as
back up.

I know PA is supposed to be very difficult to get into. Same with NJ.
One thing that we might have going for us is we are targeting a rural
area where we could reach 3 states from our desired home base.

I also hope that within 5 years, we will start to see more teachers
retire. Even if they want/need to work until they are 70, it's not
feasible in today's classroom environment. They will have to step down
someday. I do think the days of "dire teacher shortages" are gone for
good. Everyone wants to get be a teacher now because there are no
other options! It also looks like entry level teachers might be more
in demand because they cost less. Bummer!

On 10/30/09, To SameHere....transplanted into the north wrote:
> SameHere,
> I am in the north and this is my second year without a job even
> substituting is sparse because of the hundreds of people on the sub
> list. Districts are having open enrollment in order to get students
> to transfer in order to raise revenue(whereever the student goes to
> school the money allocated for that student goes with them). The
> school districts are having to place tax levies on the ballots to
> raise money also and the communities are not passing them for the
> most part. While the pay is higher compared to GA you don't get
> year for year credit for your experience. You could go to a
> district with 20 years experience and they may only give you credit
> for half that or less. Be very careful if you have a secure
> job...take it from someone who is considering every part time job
> she can in order to get a paycheck. I have a master's and ten
> years of experience and no job.
>
>
> On 10/29/09, SameHere wrote:
>> I agree. I moved to GA from another southern state because
>> teacher pay was higher and benefits were cheaper.
>>
>> All of the sudden, things in GA have done a 180. I am saddened
>> by all of the cuts to education that we have seen (and am fully
>> braced for many more in 2010). We are getting hit on the county
>> level and the state level. The only states that have made worse
>> cuts might be California and Arizona (or soon to be AZ) I have
>> to say, things were better where I came from.
>>
>> Education does not seem to be a high priority for this state (or
>> any state in the South for that matter). To their credit, some
>> counties are trying to hold off on teacher pay cuts. You will
>> see that those are counties that recognize that having high
>> quality schools and well paid teachers leads to high property
>> values and economic growth (opposite of "brain drain").
>>
>> The overwhelming theme in most areas of GA is "teachers make too
>> much money!" "Teachers should be glad to have jobs" and of
>> course "Teachers have it easy!" All spoken by folks who haven't
>> set foot in a classroom since 1965, and who don't even have a BA
>> degree themselves, let alone a masters.
>>
>> My husband and I are both teachers. We have discussed the future
>> of education in GA, both in terms of our careers and our
>> children's education at length lately. We have decided that we
>> must make a move north. I have teacher relatives in northern
>> states and they can't believe how bad things are down here.
>> Heck, even in North Carolina teachers rallied to protest the 1/2
>> percent pay cut back in May!
>>
>> I realize that getting a job up north is very difficult but we
>> will try until we succeed. If needed, I will go back into a
>> business career and use my MBA. (although teaching is the only
>> job that I ever enjoyed!)
>>
>> So we are in full research mode and will do what it takes to
>> leave GA. There are a few places here that "get it" but the vast
>> majority (including all of our so called leaders) have no clue.
>> It's "bash the union" [ha ha, what union?] and "low taxes are
>> all that matter!" I honestly can't see teaching for another 20
>> years here.
>>
>>
>> On 10/29/09, New Yorker wrote:
>>> On 10/29/09, Juliet wrote:
>>>> I'm so bewildered right now. How can I continue to work
>>>> for a system in which I no longer believe? Things could be
>>>> worse, but things could be better too!
>>>
>>> I am with you 100%! I am wondering if I can continue in
>>> education. The demands are becoming too much and I can't
>>> really do what I went to school 16+ years for! TEACH
>>>
>>> Many days I go home defeated! I would work in a cubicle at
>>> this point. I think it is sad because my mission was to
>>> educate underprivilaged children but I have become BURNT
>>> OUT!!! YOU ARE NOT ALONE!!!!

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