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Unsatisfactory rating question

by Chris

Mar 31, 2013

What happens to a teacher in Georgia if they get unsatisfactory ratings two years in a row? Is there an appeals process?

Could it be the county if they got good reviews in one and bad in another?

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Former Teacher Not trying to "split hairs," but the case I described would not be considered a license suspension or revocation. The teacher would simply have an expired certificate that can no longer be renewed. I don't know if that would prevent the teacher from getting certified in another state, though. I know a true license suspension or revocation would pre...See More

Apr 10, 2013

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anon If you are denied a renewal, it is the same thing as having your license revoked.

You are DENIED the right to teach in that state, and it will destroy your chances of getting another license in another state.

On 4/10/13, Former Teacher wrote: > Not trying to "split hairs," but the case I > described would not be considered...See More

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anon If you are denied issuance of a license, it has the same effect as a suspension or a revocation, and in fact, it has the same effect as a revocation, as you are NOT allowed to teach in the state.

Furthermore, since teacher applications are going to ask if you had a license suspended or revoked, you will never get another teaching job in a...See MoreIf you are denied issuance of a license, it has the same effect as a suspension or a revocation, and in fact, it has the same effect as a revocation, as you are NOT allowed to teach in the state.

Furthermore, since teacher applications are going to ask if you had a license suspended or revoked, you will never get another teaching job in a public school anywhere in the country.

I cannot believe that any state would steal a teacher's license on the whim of a principal. Why did teachers there even allow for this garbage?

BTW, the same semantic game is often used with termination/firing and non-renewal as in being denied a continuing contract (wrongly called "tenure"). The fact is in both cases you are fired from your job; you just don't have the right to a kangaroo hearing or can negotiated a resignation in lieu of a dismissal if you have a recommendation for dismissal. But they are still firings.

On 4/10/13, anon wrote: > If you are denied a renewal, it is the same thing as having > your license revoked. > > You are DENIED the right to teach in that state, and it > will destroy your chances of getting another license in > another state. > > > On 4/10/13, Former Teacher wrote: >> Not trying to "split hairs," but the case I >> described would not be considered >> a license suspension or revocation. The teacher would >> simply have an expired certificate that can no longer >> be renewed. I don't know if that would prevent the >> teacher from getting certified in another state, >> though. I know a true license suspension or revocation >> would prevent teachers from getting licensed in most >> states. >> >> --Former Teacher >> >> On 4/01/13, anon wrote: >>> On 4/01/13, Hippety wrote: >>>> This IS insane, Anon. Does anyone know if other >>>> states do this? >>> >>> Not out in my neck of the woods, Oregon, or my former >>> state of Nevada. >>> >>> I think Florida has some variation of this. It is the >>> most insane proposal I have EVER come across. >>> >>> License suspensions or revocations should be reserved >>> for the most serious cases of misconduct, not for >>> some principal who wants to destroy a teacher's >>> career because he or she doesn't like the teacher.

Apr 10, 2013

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anon Corrected.

On 4/10/13, anon wrote: > If you are denied issuance of a license, it has the same effect > as a suspension or a revocation, and in fact, it has the same > effect as a revocation, as you are NOT allowed to teach in the > state. > > Furthermore, since teacher applications are going to ask if you > had a lice...See MoreCorrected.

On 4/10/13, anon wrote: > If you are denied issuance of a license, it has the same effect > as a suspension or a revocation, and in fact, it has the same > effect as a revocation, as you are NOT allowed to teach in the > state. > > Furthermore, since teacher applications are going to ask if you > had a license suspended or revoked, you will never get another > teaching job in a public school anywhere in the country. > > I cannot believe that any state would steal a teacher's license > on the whim of a principal. Why did teachers there even allow > for this garbage? > > BTW, the same semantic game is often used with > termination/firing and non-renewal as in being denied a > continuing contract (wrongly called "tenure"). The fact is in > both cases you are fired from your job; you just don't have the > right to a kangaroo hearing or can negotiated a resignation in > lieu of a dismissal if you are non-renewed.

> But they are still firings. > > > On 4/10/13, anon wrote: >> If you are denied a renewal, it is the same thing as having >> your license revoked. >> >> You are DENIED the right to teach in that state, and it >> will destroy your chances of getting another license in >> another state. >> >> >> On 4/10/13, Former Teacher wrote: >>> Not trying to "split hairs," but the case I >>> described would not be considered >>> a license suspension or revocation. The teacher would >>> simply have an expired certificate that can no longer >>> be renewed. I don't know if that would prevent the >>> teacher from getting certified in another state, >>> though. I know a true license suspension or revocation >>> would prevent teachers from getting licensed in most >>> states. >>> >>> --Former Teacher >>> >>> On 4/01/13, anon wrote: >>>> On 4/01/13, Hippety wrote: >>>>> This IS insane, Anon. Does anyone know if other >>>>> states do this? >>>> >>>> Not out in my neck of the woods, Oregon, or my former >>>> state of Nevada. >>>> >>>> I think Florida has some variation of this. It is the >>>> most insane proposal I have EVER come across. >>>> >>>> License suspensions or revocations should be reserved >>>> for the most serious cases of misconduct, not for >>>> some principal who wants to destroy a teacher's >>>> career because he or she doesn't like the teacher.

Apr 10, 2013

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anon Is the record of an unsatisfactory evaluation available to administrators in other state or national districts? If so, is there a time limitation?

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