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Re: sending my "haole" children to Hawaii's schools
Posted by Roald Murphy on 12/24/05
On 12/25/03, Joanne W wrote: > I am currently a special education teacher in NY. I taught > on the small Pacific Island of Saipan for 3 years and I > loved it there. My husband and I have been longing for the > tropical lifestyle and are in the planning stages of moving > to Hawaii in the summer of 2005. I have read the postings > on this site and I am so saddened by them that I am > reconsidering my move. I feel that I could handle the > teaching conditions in Hawaii (in Saipan we no breaks, had > to mop, sweep our own rooms and even took out our own > garbage). What really worries me, though, is the prospect > of sending my two little, innocent "haole" children to > school where they may be hated, teased because of their > color (my daughter is so white she's practically blue!) > Honestly, is it really bad for white children in the > schools? I would apprecaite any feedback. Thanks you- > Joanne It would be nice if you could go out the schools, and check them out, but I don't recommend it. You cannot ask questions without being made to feel like a criminal, snob, and racist ... I.E. My question -"How do the different races get along here?" This was answered by an emotionally unstable school administrator who IMMEDIATELY responded " Who are you to come to Hawaii and start acting like you belong!"... I didn't know how to reply to that, so I played nice, but was still asked to leave. Of course she later denied that the entire thing happened later when we both spoke to the school principle. It was a misunderstanding, and I should know too, that "Haole ain't top dog here..." Having lived around the world I found the experience pathetic, really the worst first impression I could have gotten. That type of experience solidifies my contempt for all these people fighting for victim status and messing with children because they are easy targets... Instead of hiring locals to work for my business, I'm importing mainlanders.... Why would I sign up for more of that stuff from people whom I pay quite well...???!!! Then there was the beach incident... A blonde 5 year old was pushed off lava rocks by a large boy, a local who was 10 or 12 years old. She was seriously injured as the boys parents and sister sat there, 5 feet away, laughing! It was the worst thing I've ever seen, I think. It got worse as the girls mother started screaming at the husband not to say anything to them. So, he could do nothing. Crying, the man helped his daughter out of the tide pool as that awful family sat laughing, making rude comments. Enraged, I ran out to the hotel and found a police officer. He pretended to get the local mans information, but really he was watching me the whole time. Not unexpectedly, he let them go with a laugh. I later followed up with the girls father who told me his daughter had over 40 stitches for cuts on her head, face and hands. He explained that they were selling their home to move back to San Diego. The same San Diego where they had left the year before, to escape incidents like that. If incidents like this upset you then don't come. You will not believe how otherwise friendly people will behave this way and then play dumb about it. Say what they want, the only place worse than here for passive and overt racism that I've seen was in Morocco, (where they can also be disarmingly warm and friendly only to fly off unprovoked spitting threats and insults). If it were just you I'd say go, but as a mental health professional, with two offices here, I have seen too many depressed, self mutilating, suicidal. and drug addicted children and teens, I just would not suggest it. R Murphy
Posts on this thread, including this one
- sending my "haole" children to Hawaii's schools, 12/25/03, by Joanne W.
- Re: sending my "haole" children to Hawaii's schools, 12/26/03, by Joe.
- Re: sending my "haole" children to Hawaii's schools, 1/20/04, by Benjamin B..
- Re: sending my "haole" children to Hawaii's schools, 1/22/04, by joe.
- Re: sending my "haole" children to Hawaii's schools, 2/05/04, by joe.
- Re: sending my "haole" children to Hawaii's schools, 2/23/04, by Gina.
- Re: sending my "haole" children to Hawaii's schools, 2/23/04, by Gina.
- Re: Haoles, 3/22/04, by AngelaS.
- Re: sending my "haole" children to Hawaii's schools, 3/26/04, by Michelle Correia.
- Re: sending my "haole" children to Hawaii's schools, 4/14/04, by Karla .
- Re: sending my "haole" children to Hawaii's schools, 5/19/04, by Amy.
- Re: sending my "haole" children to Hawaii's schools, 6/17/04, by Anna.
- Re: sending my "haole" children to Hawaii's schools, 6/23/04, by nicole.
- Re: My "haole" daughter teaches in Hawaii...., 6/23/04, by Jan.
- Re: sending my "haole" children to Hawaii's schools, 8/15/04, by Rae.
- Re: "haole" in Hawaii, 8/16/04, by a hole girl living here.
- Re: "haole" in Hawaii, 8/16/04, by another person not born of Hawaii, but feels a part.
- Re: "haole" in Hawaii, 8/23/04, by No'eau.
- Re: "haole" in Hawaii, 5/23/05, by Cali.
- Re: "haole" in Hawaii, 7/10/05, by Eric Williamson.
- Re: sending my "haole" children to Hawaii's schools, 7/16/05, by Rachel.
- Re: sending my "haole" children to Hawaii's schools, 7/20/05, by aaron bowen.
- Re: sending my "haole" children to Hawaii's schools, 7/20/05, by aaronbowen.
- Re: sending my "haole" children to Hawaii's schools, 8/04/05, by Nancy .
- Re: sending my "haole" children to Hawaii's schools, 10/24/05, by Chris.
- Re: sending my "haole" children to Hawaii's schools, 10/27/05, by heather.
- Re: sending my "haole" children to Hawaii's schools, 11/07/05, by Dorothy.
- Re: "haole" in Hawaii, 12/24/05, by roald murphy.
- Re: "haole" in Hawaii, 12/24/05, by roald murphy.
- Re: sending my "haole" children to Hawaii's schools, 12/24/05, by Roald Murphy.
- Re: sending my "haole" children to Hawaii's schools, 1/10/06, by Starr.
- Re: sending my "haole" children to Hawaii's schools, 1/14/06, by anonymous.
- Re: sending my "haole" children to Hawaii's schools, 1/16/06, by Anonymous.
- Re: sending my "haole" children to Hawaii's schools, 2/13/06, by Kirt Nieft.
- Re: sending my "haole" children to Hawaii's schools, 2/24/06, by lam-r.
- Re: Haoles, 3/10/06, by daniel.
- Re: "haole" in Hawaii, 3/10/06, by Anonymous.
- Re: sending my "haole" children to Hawaii's schools, 3/17/06, by Jim of Maui.
- Re: "haole" in Hawaii, 3/31/06, by concerned4u.
- Re: "haole" in Hawaii, 3/31/06, by concerned4u.
- Re: "haole" in Hawaii, 3/31/06, by I'm glad you brought this post to the top. It's very ironic.
- Re: sending my "haole" children to Hawaii's schools, 5/09/06, by Char.
- Re: sending my "haole" children to Hawaii's schools, 5/12/06, by Michelle Correia.
- Re: Michelle Correia, 8/07/06, by Lava.
- Re: Michelle Correia, 11/05/06, by brad.
- Re: sending my "haole" children to Hawaii's schools, 1/06/07, by Marc.
- Re: sending my "haole" children to Hawaii's schools, 1/10/07, by Haole Crab.
- Re: sending my "haole" children to Hawaii's schools, 8/07/07, by Kamaaina.
- Re: sending my "haole" children to Hawaii's schools, 8/07/07, by HIDOE.
- Re: sending my "haole" children to Hawaii's schools, 8/07/07, by Sue.
- Re: "haole" in Hawaii, 1/07/08, by D. ABRUE.
- Re: "haole" in Hawaii, 2/07/08, by Angela.
- Re: "haole" in Hawaii, 2/08/08, by Erica.
- Re: sending my "haole" children to Hawaii's schools, 5/31/08, by Tom.
- Re: "haole" in Hawaii, 5/31/08, by Tom.
- Re: sending my "haole" children to Hawaii's schools, 10/28/08, by Kama`aina.
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