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Re: sending my "haole" children to Hawaii's schools
Posted by Tom on 5/31/08

    Kamaaina, what point are you trying to make by throwing in
    Japanese and the culture? Perhaps, it is your poor foresight that
    was the cause for experience teaching in Hawaii. Race and identity
    has nothing to do with teaching or learning. Unfortunately, it is
    evident that we all have a long ways to go in terms of maturing as
    citizens. It's no wonder that democratic values continue to
    depreciate in our nation.

    On 8/07/07, Kamaaina wrote:
    > On 1/06/07, Marc wrote:
    >> It amazes me for a bunch of educators you have missed the
    >> point of the question. The question here for the last 2+
    >> years has been "How are my children going to be treated as
    >> white kids in the Hawaii public school system?" Not you as
    >> an adult!!!!!!
    >>
    >> I too have been interested in moving to Hawaii and this
    >> question bothers me. I have been to Hawaii 19 times in the
    >> past 6 years as a tourist and on bussiness. I must say I
    >> have been treated well and never experienced any racism. But
    >> then again I "Go Native" and some people think I've lived
    >> there all my life.
    >>
    >> To put my 2 and 7 year old girls into the Public Schools
    >> there is of great concern. While my Hawaiian friends say
    >> it's not that bad they will also admit that they were not on
    >> the recieving end. I am often told that the best solution is
    >> private school if you can afford it and then theres home
    >> school. Either way you are hiding from the problem and not
    >> provided your children critical social skills.
    >>
    >> Simple soluton for moving to Hawaii.
    >>
    >> 1. Find a Job.
    >>
    >> 2. Find a great house and nieghborhood.
    >>
    >> 3. Find an excellent School.
    >>
    >> If you can line up all 3 then your a GOD!!!
    >>
    >> Unlike other school systems the Hawaii system cover all
    >> Islands and cities. Some say it's the bes others say it's
    >> the worst. Look up test scores and ratings on line. I have
    >> found they rate at the bottom and middle of the pack
    >> depending on the source.
    >>
    >>
    >> Bottom line is if you put your white children in the Hawaii
    >> Public school system it's a gamble. But you better have PLAN
    >> A, B, and 3 ready if your wrong.
    >
    > Marc is absolutely right! It's bad enough for the teachers
    > and much worse for the children. I grew up in Hawaii and went
    > to private schools my entire K-12 life. After two Masters
    > degrees I went backto Hawaii because I was homesick -- with a
    > job lined up at the DOE. It was like working for Satan
    > himself or worse!!! Some really nice people. All
    > administrators I met were jerks with a capital J. The HSTA
    > union is worthless -- even if you are Japanese or hapa
    > Japanese and the culture is don't buck the system even if what
    > you say and do is best practices for the child.
    >
    > Felix Sh__T they don't give a damn about the kids -- only
    > maintaining their jobs and the AYP scores -- even if they have
    > to cheat to get there.
    >
    > Lots of luck. I wouldnt send my child to public school in
    > Hawaii EVER!!!!!

     
     

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