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Re: Online applications
Posted by Merrill on 6/20/08

    Remember that Illinois is not like other states. The teacher's union in
    Illinois works with the state licensing board to keep the number of employed
    teachers artificially low. Less teachers, higher pay.

    Illinois also has its own testing system, which is different than every other
    state. To my knowledge 47-49 of the other states use the PRAXIS examinations
    for certifying teachers. Not Illinois. This means there is no reciprocity,
    and teachers from other states have a difficult time getting certified here.

    To get an ELL endorsement in Louisiana, you have to take 12 hours of
    additional classes in that area (and it helps to speak another language). I
    called around Illinois to see what getting and ELL endorsement in Illinois
    requires: 18 hours graduate work in ESL, a 100 hour practicum, and an exam.
    Everyone I talk to says you need to go into a graduate program full-time to
    get all that done. It will cost about $36,000 at a place like DePaul.

    *Now if someone has an easier way to do it, I'd love to hear it!

    We don't use online database systems to screen candidates in higher education.
    There is no way a database with fixed fields is going to tell us much about a
    candidate for a tenure-track teaching position. If we did, every candidate
    would look the same. And yes, we get hundreds of applicants.

    How should we be hiring teachers then? Form hiring committees in individual
    departments (Math, Science, English, etc.). Post a DETAILED job advertisement
    asking for resumes/CVs, cover letters, a philosophy of education, and anything
    else the applicant wants to submit. Then go through the materials by hand!

    In the online database, there are questions like: "What do you think makes for
    a 'great teacher?'" Who do you think reads that? It usually isn't a
    teacher--it might be a secretary or a civil servant of some kind, who doesn't
    know much of anything about teaching, and certainly doesn't understand what a
    "teaching philosophy" is!

    So to make a long post shorter, I would say look at other states like South
    Carolina, Georgia, etc. You won't get away from the databases, but your
    chances of finding a position are better.

    On 6/19/08, discouraged wrote:
    > This thread is very discouraging. I'll use my degree for something else
    > with lots less headache.

     
     

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