Re: ELL/ESL endorsement
Posted by spedhead on 6/29/08
On 6/27/08, TTH wrote:
> What exactly is the difference between ESL and ELL? My
> daughter has an 03 certificate with endorsements in language
> arts and mathematics. She has subbed for 3 years and cannot
> find a full time teaching position. It's so frustrating. How
> long does it take to get an ESL or ELL endorsement? Thanks!
She can teach middle school math and she can't find a job? The
math dept. head has trouble finding qualified people at my
school, so that's suprising.
ESL and ELL is basically the same thing. It is the same
certification on your certificate. I think ISBE still puts ESL,
but most schools will call the classes and teaching positions
ELL. ESL is English as a Second Language and ELL is English
Language Learner. In IL (and I hear these definitions vary by
state) ESL/ELL classrooms are taught in English and have students
who speak many different languages. Spanish speakers, in
Chicagoland anyway, are usually in a situation where there are
enough of them to warrant hiring Billingual teachers. ESL/ELL
will be used for the classroom that has 3 kids speaking Chinese,
4 speaking Polish, 1 speaks Thai, 1 speaks some African dialect
you can't pronounce and so on.
In education, we typically relable everything. A bunch of
educators got together, thought the "English as a Second
Language" was either offensive or inaccurate, and so they changed
it to somethign they thought was more appropriate. They probably
spent a lot of money and time, and walked away thinking they did
something meaningful, but they really just changed an accronym.
It happens in Special Education ALL the time and just serves to
confuse people.
Imagine if you were trying to teach someone to drive and there
were 5 names for the break. You tell your kid to break, and he
doesn't know what you're talking about because in Driver's Ed, it
was called the Car Arrestor or something. Its basically like
that in education.
>
>
> On 6/19/08, Merrill wrote:
>> I looked into the endorsement for ELL in Illinois, and in
>> addition to coursework, you need to have 100 hours or
>> teaching ESL students.
>>
>> The woman I spoke with mentioned that there are programs
>> that teachers can sign up for that will allow you to get
>> these hours--even in the summer. Some kind of paid
>> internship.
>>
>> This sounds really good! Does anyone know anything about
>> this?
Posts on this thread, including this one
- ELL/ESL endorsement, 6/19/08, by Merrill.
- Re: ELL/ESL endorsement, 6/27/08, by TTH.
- Re: ELL/ESL endorsement, 6/29/08, by spedhead.
- Re: ELL/ESL endorsement, 7/02/08, by Cecilia.
- Re: ELL/ESL endorsement...SPEDHEAD, 7/08/08, by TTH.
- Re: ELL/ESL endorsement...SPEDHEAD, 7/14/08, by spedhead.
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