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Re: ELL/ESL endorsement...SPEDHEAD
Posted by TTH on 7/08/08
If you need a qualified middle school math teacher at your school,
my daughter would love to be interviewed if possible. She's a gem!!
On 6/29/08, spedhead wrote:
> On 6/27/08, TTH wrote:
>> What exactly is the difference between ESL and ELL? My
>> daughter has an 03 certificate with endorsements in language
>> arts and mathematics. She has subbed for 3 years and cannot
>> find a full time teaching position. It's so frustrating. How
>> long does it take to get an ESL or ELL endorsement? Thanks!
>
> She can teach middle school math and she can't find a job? The
> math dept. head has trouble finding qualified people at my
> school, so that's suprising.
>
> ESL and ELL is basically the same thing. It is the same
> certification on your certificate. I think ISBE still puts ESL,
> but most schools will call the classes and teaching positions
> ELL. ESL is English as a Second Language and ELL is English
> Language Learner. In IL (and I hear these definitions vary by
> state) ESL/ELL classrooms are taught in English and have students
> who speak many different languages. Spanish speakers, in
> Chicagoland anyway, are usually in a situation where there are
> enough of them to warrant hiring Billingual teachers. ESL/ELL
> will be used for the classroom that has 3 kids speaking Chinese,
> 4 speaking Polish, 1 speaks Thai, 1 speaks some African dialect
> you can't pronounce and so on.
>
> In education, we typically relable everything. A bunch of
> educators got together, thought the "English as a Second
> Language" was either offensive or inaccurate, and so they changed
> it to somethign they thought was more appropriate. They probably
> spent a lot of money and time, and walked away thinking they did
> something meaningful, but they really just changed an accronym.
> It happens in Special Education ALL the time and just serves to
> confuse people.
>
> Imagine if you were trying to teach someone to drive and there
> were 5 names for the break. You tell your kid to break, and he
> doesn't know what you're talking about because in Driver's Ed, it
> was called the Car Arrestor or something. Its basically like
> that in education.
>
>>
>>
>> On 6/19/08, Merrill wrote:
>>> I looked into the endorsement for ELL in Illinois, and in
>>> addition to coursework, you need to have 100 hours or
>>> teaching ESL students.
>>>
>>> The woman I spoke with mentioned that there are programs
>>> that teachers can sign up for that will allow you to get
>>> these hours--even in the summer. Some kind of paid
>>> internship.
>>>
>>> This sounds really good! Does anyone know anything about
>>> this?
Posts on this thread, including this one
- ELL/ESL endorsement, 6/19/08, by Merrill.
- Re: ELL/ESL endorsement, 6/27/08, by TTH.
- Re: ELL/ESL endorsement, 6/29/08, by spedhead.
- Re: ELL/ESL endorsement, 7/02/08, by Cecilia.
- Re: ELL/ESL endorsement...SPEDHEAD, 7/08/08, by TTH.
- Re: ELL/ESL endorsement...SPEDHEAD, 7/14/08, by spedhead.
- Re: ELL/ESL endorsement...SPEDHEAD, 9/25/08, by ASPD.
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