Re: ELL/ESL endorsement...SPEDHEAD
Posted by ASPD on 9/25/08
ASPD offers "fast-trak" classes that are accepted toward the ESL and
Bilingual endorsement in Illinois. Currently, there is a "Weekend
Intensive" that will launch October 17th at the Little Village
Community Center. Costs are WELL below that of colleges and
universities. $1350 for the first three courses plus $450 upon
completion for credit. $1350 for the second set of three classes,
plus $450 upon completion for credit. Credit is provided by Chapman
University (CA) which is fully accredited. Two additional cohorts
are planned to form: one in the Ukranian Village area and one
somewhere around DesPlaines.
On 7/08/08, TTH wrote:
> If you need a qualified middle school math teacher at your school,
> my daughter would love to be interviewed if possible. She's a gem!!
>
>
> On 6/29/08, spedhead wrote:
>> On 6/27/08, TTH wrote:
>>> What exactly is the difference between ESL and ELL? My
>>> daughter has an 03 certificate with endorsements in language
>>> arts and mathematics. She has subbed for 3 years and cannot
>>> find a full time teaching position. It's so frustrating. How
>>> long does it take to get an ESL or ELL endorsement? Thanks!
>>
>> She can teach middle school math and she can't find a job? The
>> math dept. head has trouble finding qualified people at my
>> school, so that's suprising.
>>
>> ESL and ELL is basically the same thing. It is the same
>> certification on your certificate. I think ISBE still puts ESL,
>> but most schools will call the classes and teaching positions
>> ELL. ESL is English as a Second Language and ELL is English
>> Language Learner. In IL (and I hear these definitions vary by
>> state) ESL/ELL classrooms are taught in English and have students
>> who speak many different languages. Spanish speakers, in
>> Chicagoland anyway, are usually in a situation where there are
>> enough of them to warrant hiring Billingual teachers. ESL/ELL
>> will be used for the classroom that has 3 kids speaking Chinese,
>> 4 speaking Polish, 1 speaks Thai, 1 speaks some African dialect
>> you can't pronounce and so on.
>>
>> In education, we typically relable everything. A bunch of
>> educators got together, thought the "English as a Second
>> Language" was either offensive or inaccurate, and so they changed
>> it to somethign they thought was more appropriate. They probably
>> spent a lot of money and time, and walked away thinking they did
>> something meaningful, but they really just changed an accronym.
>> It happens in Special Education ALL the time and just serves to
>> confuse people.
>>
>> Imagine if you were trying to teach someone to drive and there
>> were 5 names for the break. You tell your kid to break, and he
>> doesn't know what you're talking about because in Driver's Ed, it
>> was called the Car Arrestor or something. Its basically like
>> that in education.
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 6/19/08, Merrill wrote:
>>>> I looked into the endorsement for ELL in Illinois, and in
>>>> addition to coursework, you need to have 100 hours or
>>>> teaching ESL students.
>>>>
>>>> The woman I spoke with mentioned that there are programs
>>>> that teachers can sign up for that will allow you to get
>>>> these hours--even in the summer. Some kind of paid
>>>> internship.
>>>>
>>>> This sounds really good! Does anyone know anything about
>>>> this?
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