Northwest suburbs.

On 6/02/09, Lily wrote:
> On 5/31/09, Laura wrote:
>> I would not get a master's degree out of state unless
>> it was in special ed. The districts with which I am
>> familiar don't really hire folks for regular ed with
>> a master's degree.
>>
>> L
>
>
> Thanks Laura. What districts are you referring to? Most
> of the districts I'll be applying with will be suburban
> areas outside of Chicago. Like Schaumburg, Arlington
> Heights,St. Charles, Geneva, Elgin, South Elgin,
> Algonquin, Lake in the Hills etccc... even possibly
> Plano, Oswego....so not sure if these are any of the
> districts you're talking about. Any feedback would be
> great. I think I am going to wait on the masters.
>
>
>>
>>
>> On 5/31/09, Lily wrote:
>>> On 5/31/09, sped wrote:
>>>> On 5/30/09, Laura wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> " BTW: I really don't want to debate
>>>>> bilingual vs. ESL. This is the way the state
>>>>> law is written."
>>>>
>>>> OK, then accept what I say without debate...
>>>>
>>>>> In Illinois if a school has 20 or more students
>>>>> that are not proficient in English and speak
>>>>> the same language, the students must be taught
>>>>> in their native language in addition to
>>>>> learning English.
>>>>>
>>>>> So what happens is ... kids have bilingual
>>>>> education if they speak a language with a large
>>>>> population.
>>>>
>>>> Well, you're kind of right. State law says what
>>>> you say it does, but many times districts can't
>>>> provide bilingual education because there just
>>>> aren't people to staff the positions. Even the
>>>> more common languages like Polish and Spanish are
>>>> hard to fill, but usually get filled, even if its
>>>> with someone with no teaching degree who speaks
>>>> the language and has a college degree. My
>>>> district has even gone to Mexico and Spain to
>>>> find Spanish speakers, and came back with MDs
>>>> from Mexico and even one former Provincial
>>>> legislator from Spain, but they had never taught.
>>>>
>>>> District 54 in Schaumburg, for instance, has had
>>>> a Japanese Bilingual job opening for several
>>>> years, because they have a population that
>>>> requires it, but absolutely no candidates. Not
>>>> even someone with a college degree, no teaching
>>>> experience, who speaks Japanese. I know the
>>>> ELL/Billingual administrator over there, and he's
>>>> even tried to get one of the student's parents to
>>>> teach, but its not happening. So, these kids are
>>>> educated by an ELL teacher, because there's no
>>>> other option.
>>>>
>>>> Also, there are some districts that just ignore
>>>> the law, and ISBE hasn't slapped their hand yet.
>>>> Plainfield District 202 has a growing Spanish
>>>> population, and they have practically no
>>>> ESL/Bilingual services. I know two teachers who
>>>> teach in that district and they have Spanish
>>>> speakers, and others, with no to minimal English
>>>> skills in their classrooms with no support. Maybe
>>>> an ELL administrator's phone number comes along
>>>> with the student, and a call to them will get a
>>>> suggestion like seeing if a student could
>>>> translate.
>>>>
>>>> ESL jobs are more in demand than regular
>>>> elementary or high school social science, but
>>>> you're right that Bilingual Spanish and a few
>>>> other languages are highly sought after. Still,
>>>> if you're looking to add an endorsement to get a
>>>> job, and don't want to work special education,
>>>> then this might be a good option.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I see what you all are saying. I don't know spanish
>>> or any other language. I'm trying to figure out how
>>> to make myself more marketable when I move back.
>>> Getting a bilingual endorsement is not going to
>>> happen. The only thing is I'll be ELL/ESL
>>> endorsed...thats it. But, I'm considering a masters
>>> in early literacy w/ reading endorsement. BUT,I'm
>>> not sure if I should wait and get the masters in
>>> Illinois or do it now. Not sure if having the
>>> masters and the way ecomony is. Not sure if
>>> districts in this time are willing to pay someone
>>> with a masters. Is that something I should worry
>>> about? I'm conflicted over this decision. It'll
>>> take me 14 months to finish the masters if I do go
>>> ahead with it. The decision will be to move to Il
>>> w/ B.S. ESL endorsement OR move back w/ a M.S.
>>> Early literacy w/ reading endorsement AND be ESL
>>> endorsed. What to do??????
>>>>

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