On 6/02/09, Laura wrote:
>

That sucks!!! I've noticed that a lot of those districts
want bilingual! Seriously sucks! But, I'm sure I will find
something. I'll be looking next Spring.

Northwest suburbs.
>
> On 6/02/09, Lily wrote:
>> On 5/31/09, Laura wrote:
>>> I would not get a master's degree out of state unless
>>> it was in special ed. The districts with which I am
>>> familiar don't really hire folks for regular ed with
>>> a master's degree.
>>>
>>> L
>>
>>
>> Thanks Laura. What districts are you referring to? Most
>> of the districts I'll be applying with will be suburban
>> areas outside of Chicago. Like Schaumburg, Arlington
>> Heights,St. Charles, Geneva, Elgin, South Elgin,
>> Algonquin, Lake in the Hills etccc... even possibly
>> Plano, Oswego....so not sure if these are any of the
>> districts you're talking about. Any feedback would be
>> great. I think I am going to wait on the masters.
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 5/31/09, Lily wrote:
>>>> On 5/31/09, sped wrote:
>>>>> On 5/30/09, Laura wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> " BTW: I really don't want to debate
>>>>>> bilingual vs. ESL. This is the way the state
>>>>>> law is written."
>>>>>
>>>>> OK, then accept what I say without debate...
>>>>>
>>>>>> In Illinois if a school has 20 or more students
>>>>>> that are not proficient in English and speak
>>>>>> the same language, the students must be taught
>>>>>> in their native language in addition to
>>>>>> learning English.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So what happens is ... kids have bilingual
>>>>>> education if they speak a language with a large
>>>>>> population.
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, you're kind of right. State law says what
>>>>> you say it does, but many times districts can't
>>>>> provide bilingual education because there just
>>>>> aren't people to staff the positions. Even the
>>>>> more common languages like Polish and Spanish are
>>>>> hard to fill, but usually get filled, even if its
>>>>> with someone with no teaching degree who speaks
>>>>> the language and has a college degree. My
>>>>> district has even gone to Mexico and Spain to
>>>>> find Spanish speakers, and came back with MDs
>>>>> from Mexico and even one former Provincial
>>>>> legislator from Spain, but they had never taught.
>>>>>
>>>>> District 54 in Schaumburg, for instance, has had
>>>>> a Japanese Bilingual job opening for several
>>>>> years, because they have a population that
>>>>> requires it, but absolutely no candidates. Not
>>>>> even someone with a college degree, no teaching
>>>>> experience, who speaks Japanese. I know the
>>>>> ELL/Billingual administrator over there, and he's
>>>>> even tried to get one of the student's parents to
>>>>> teach, but its not happening. So, these kids are
>>>>> educated by an ELL teacher, because there's no
>>>>> other option.
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, there are some districts that just ignore
>>>>> the law, and ISBE hasn't slapped their hand yet.
>>>>> Plainfield District 202 has a growing Spanish
>>>>> population, and they have practically no
>>>>> ESL/Bilingual services. I know two teachers who
>>>>> teach in that district and they have Spanish
>>>>> speakers, and others, with no to minimal English
>>>>> skills in their classrooms with no support. Maybe
>>>>> an ELL administrator's phone number comes along
>>>>> with the student, and a call to them will get a
>>>>> suggestion like seeing if a student could
>>>>> translate.
>>>>>
>>>>> ESL jobs are more in demand than regular
>>>>> elementary or high school social science, but
>>>>> you're right that Bilingual Spanish and a few
>>>>> other languages are highly sought after. Still,
>>>>> if you're looking to add an endorsement to get a
>>>>> job, and don't want to work special education,
>>>>> then this might be a good option.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I see what you all are saying. I don't know spanish
>>>> or any other language. I'm trying to figure out how
>>>> to make myself more marketable when I move back.
>>>> Getting a bilingual endorsement is not going to
>>>> happen. The only thing is I'll be ELL/ESL
>>>> endorsed...thats it. But, I'm considering a masters
>>>> in early literacy w/ reading endorsement. BUT,I'm
>>>> not sure if I should wait and get the masters in
>>>> Illinois or do it now. Not sure if having the
>>>> masters and the way ecomony is. Not sure if
>>>> districts in this time are willing to pay someone
>>>> with a masters. Is that something I should worry
>>>> about? I'm conflicted over this decision. It'll
>>>> take me 14 months to finish the masters if I do go
>>>> ahead with it. The decision will be to move to Il
>>>> w/ B.S. ESL endorsement OR move back w/ a M.S.
>>>> Early literacy w/ reading endorsement AND be ESL
>>>> endorsed. What to do??????
>>>>>

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