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Re: ESL Licensing Question
Posted by Susan on 8/03/08

On 8/03/08, Constancia wrote:

I have a Bachelor in Education and an Indiana teaching license already. I am
thinking about adding an endorsement in ESL or graduate classes ESL.

IF Indiana allows someone to do student teaching or practicums on a paid basis
through an alternate teaching license program then that should not be allowed
IMO.

I certainly was not allowed to do this in my rigorous teacher training.

Personally I do not agree with alternative teaching license programs or
emergency licenses.

There are many many well qualified teachers in Indiana who have been looking
for jobs for a long time - there is no need in Indiana for alternative licensed
teachers and I think these programs are rubbish.

I think the emergency license thing is just an excuse for school boards and
principals to hire friends and relatives - rather than a teacher who is already
licensed in Indiana.

Maybe the low scores of students in this state would improve if Indiana upheld
the idea that teachers should be educated in traditional teacher training
rather than alternative coursework.

I have been told this is not allowed in Indiana.
> Of course you have to have a BA! The alternate path is a transition to
> teaching program, which is just three courses over the summer, four in the
> fall, and the field work, which is only 30 hours. It's still considered an
> "alternate path" because it's done quickly---in less than one year, and you
> can do it while you are on an emergency license, so your own classroom is
> where you do the student teaching.
>
> On 8/02/08, Susan wrote:
>> On 8/02/08, Constancia wrote:
>>
>> Indiana does NOT allow simply taking the Praxis test to teach - you must
>> take college courses - get a Bachelors or endorsements and do practicum
>> and student teaching - there is NO Alternate course for this in Indiana.
>> However I wouldn't be surprised if teachers from other states are allowed
>> to come here without taking the coursework that Indiana requires for it's
>> own resident teachers.
>>> Sorry to disagree, but there IS a need for teachers in Indiana. Check
>>> out the DOE website!
>>> http://www.doe.state.in.us/peer/positionsbycategory/welcome.html
>>>
>>> There are some ELL positions open (and this is less than two weeks
>>> before school begins, mind you) and scads of Spanish positions (and I
>>> didn't even want to *count* the number of math positions open). We just
>>> hired an elementary and a high school ELL person.
>>>
>>> There are alternate paths to licensing available, and all that's
>>> required for the license itself is passing the Praxis I and Praxis II
>>> in your content area.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 7/08/08, Susan wrote:
>>>> No my license is in El Ed. I am actually planning on going
>>>> overseas to teach English for a few years - since there are no jobs
>>>> in Indiana - teaching or otherwise. I might get an ESL online
>>>> while teaching overseas. I may not even return to Indiana since
>>>> this state has no jobs and they making teaching licensing way to
>>>> difficult and expensive. Not to mention the horrible winter
>>>> weather.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> No On 7/08/08, Job Hunter wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Ugh! Forgive my typos in my response. I must have brain freeze
>>>>> due to summer vacation!
>>>>>
>>>>> On 7/07/08, Job Hunter wrote:
>>>>>> I'm assuming your talking high school? I don't know about the
>>>>>> requirement for the teachers to be bilingual, but as far as
>>>>>> the assignment code, it is easily explained there. The
>>>>>> website is
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> http://www.doe.in.gov/dps/licensing/assignmentcode/pdf/IndianaAssign
>>>> Code-HighSchool.pdf
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you have a Rules 46-47 license, it says any license is OK,
>>>>>> although they recommend and ESL endorsement. However, for
>>>>>> Rules 2002, the teacher must have an ESL endorsement now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I hope this helps!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 7/07/08, Susan wrote:
>>>>>>> Does Indiana require teachers seeking ESL licensing in
>>>>>>> Indiana to be bilingual? (English and another language?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Do colleges require this in order to enroll in an ESL
>>>>>>> teaching license program?


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Posts on this thread, including this one


• ESL Licensing Question, 7/07/08, by Susan.
• Re: ESL Licensing Question, 7/07/08, by Job Hunter.
• Re: ESL Licensing Question, 7/08/08, by Job Hunter.
• Re: ESL Licensing Question, 7/08/08, by Susan.
• Re: ESL Licensing Question, 8/02/08, by Constancia.
• Re: ESL Licensing Question, 8/02/08, by Susan.
• Re: ESL Licensing Question, 8/03/08, by Constancia.
• Re: ESL Licensing Question, 8/03/08, by Susan.