Johnv, your lack of concern for the safety of the "other" students in
the classroom is astounding. Apparently you are ready to endanger the
safety and possibly the lives of students and faculty by allowing even
the most violent repeat offenders to be returned to classrooms. So
salvaging the one repeat violent offender is more important to you
than the safety of all the other students?
I'm not at all sure what you mean by seeing only the classroom
disturbance. That makes absolutely no sense.
What I do see is a need for safe classrooms so children can learn.
You apparently see no need for that even though many studies and most
educators will say a safe and orderly classroom is a prerequisite for
learning. That is why superintendents need the discretion to remove
from the classroom -- even the alternative campus classroom -- the
most violent and dangerous students. The other students deserve that,
although you apparently don't think so.
Speaking of not seeing the forest for the trees, you are so blinded by
your concern for those violent offenders that you are willing to
endanger not only the education process but the safety and lives of
other students and faculty. That is truly astounding, but then again,
apparently that is how Paul Pastorek feels, too.
On 4/11/08, Bewildered it is not all about you believe it or not!
wrote:
> On 4/11/08, Johnv wrote:
>> We educators cannot see the forest for the trees sometimes. If we
>> cannot break the cycle of ignorance (for these you want tossed out
>> of school and placed in institutions,) they will continue to see
>> violence as the only recourse. What do you think is learned in
>> institutions? Only how to be more violent and how to cover tracks;
>> not how to redirect their lives into paying jobs and productive
>> members of society. We are very short sighted when the classroom
>> disturbance is all you see. If that's all you see, thats all you
>> get!
>>
>>
>>
>> On 4/09/08, Paul Pastorek wrote:
>>> Paul Pastorek does NOT want to put violent students (who were not
>>> deemed necessary to be incarcerated) in regular education
>> schools.
>>> Anyone who says so is wrong. He wants ALL children, even ones
>>> who have made mistakes to get an education, lest we assure that
>>> they will be left to a life of destitution or criminal behavior.
>>> Many children who have made mistakes, even behaved violently in
>>> the past, are now contributing members of our society because
>> they
>>> were educated thanks to wonderful and thoughtful teachers and
>>> educators.
>>>
>>> Paul Pastorek
>>>
>>> On 4/07/08, bewildered wrote:
>>>> I don't want them in schools. You cannot save every kid, but
>>>> you can make schools safer for the ones who want to be there.
>>>> Why take away the discretion from superintendents to choose
>>>> between sending the worst offenders to alternative school or
>>>> turn them over to the juvenile justice system? Even students
>>>> in alternative schools deserve to be safe from the worst
>>>> offenders.
>>>>
>>>> On 4/07/08, johnv wrote:
>>>>> Just curious. What do you want to do with them? (I assume
>>>>> they are not in prison.)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 4/04/08, bewildered wrote:
>>>>>> Why does our state education superintendent want to take
>>>>>> away the authority of school districts to put violent
>>>>>> offenders out of our schools? Why does he insist that
>>>>>> they should be returned to schools? Who wants to teach at
>>>>>> a school with the most violent offenders, with dangerous
>>>>>> students? Who wants to send their children there? See
>>>>>> the link. The important things are at the bottom of the
>>>>>> story.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.shreveporttimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?
>>>>>> AID=/20080404/NEWS01/804040310
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