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Re: Missing Michigan
Posted by CJC on 3/08/08

    Boy, no one whines more then you Missing Michigan. I went back to
    school after 10 years in another career and am 80,000 in debt from
    this but was told there would be many teaching jobs. Wrong! I don't
    have the option of moving out of state but the teaching job I found
    was at a charter school. I don't get the backing of a union and
    administration threatens to fire people at will. I live pay check to
    paycheck as a teacher. I was more appreciated as a nurse and made
    more money. I do what I do because I love teaching. I do it for the
    kids. I am tired of all your complaining. What is wrong with you?


    On 3/08/08, You have some shallow standards. wrote:
    > Exactly why do you need a brand new car?? Need the ego boost? Boo
    > hoo, some rich kids have new cars, and you can't afford one right
    > now. DID YOU EVER HEAR OF PUTTING AWAY SOME SAVINGS? I can't
    > believe all the "I Want It Now" young teachers who think they are
    so
    > underpaid and live check to check. You seem rather financially
    > ignorant for several reasons:
    >
    > 1.) In this economy, exactly what kind of job are you trained for
    > that will pay you more than you are making now and offer the same
    > job security/benefits?
    >
    > 2.) My 1st year starting teacher pay was $8,000/year. I drove
    some
    > very nice used cars and trucks, had three national honor society
    > kids, and went on the most fantastic vacations with my family, both
    > in and out of the country. No, we didn't travel first class, but
    we
    > went on vacations most families would die to go on, and have
    > memories to last a lifetime.
    >
    > 3.) I didn't demand more and more, and whine like a petulant
    child.
    > I worked hard, loved my teaching job, bought a nice starter
    > home, and managed my money intelligently. Both my wife and I are
    > teachers, and currently reside in a five bedroom, brick, 4200sq ft
    > builders model home on an acre lot in a gorgeous subdivision
    > complete with pool and tennis. It was a GREAT ride getting here,
    as
    > my family and friends will attest to, and well worth the wait!
    >
    > 4.) Why the H*** did you go into education if you are so greedy?
    > Yes, it probably would be best if you would leave.
    >
    > 5.) You talk of "The Real World" like you have ANY clue as to what
    > that is. Greedy, self-serving, gimme', gimme', gimme, you make me
    > want to barf. Momma' ought to spank you hard and put you in the
    > corner till you grow up, and see what you have, not what you don't.
    >
    > My parents raised 8 kids of their own, plus two impoverished
    > neighbor kids, on a yearly salary that was less than what you make
    > in two months. We worked hard, played hard, and loved our family,
    > period. Money? I am sure it was on my parents mind a lot, but
    they
    > never asked for anything from anyone. Whatever they did, they must
    > have done it right. Their kids consist of a two star general,
    > college professor, attorney in the governors office, CEO of a
    > Fortune 500 company, two engineers, and four nationally recognized
    > educators.
    >
    > That, my young greedy friend, IS the real world. Try living in it
    > for a change.
    >
    >
    >
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    >
    >
    > On 3/08/08, In Defense wrote:
    >> Yeah , we all chose this job for the right reasons and perhaps a
    >> little stupidity too. I think as student teachers we see the
    >> teaching profession through rose colored glasses. "I'm gonna
    >> change the world!" But the reality is I can't, I can only hope
    >> that at the end of the day maybe I've had some kind of positive
    >> influence on someone in my classroom. That's all I can hope for.
    >> Then on top of that you add on the long thankless hours and low
    >> low pay. You start to feel a bit taken for granted. I love it
    >> when a kid responds to a lesson or when I have made a positve
    >> impact on someone. There aren't too many feelings like that. But
    >> I also realize I'm giving up a lot for that feeling. Not just
    >> money, but I do need to have some financial stability. I'd like
    >> to have a family someday and take care of them and pay off my
    >> debts. Not just live paycheck to paycheck and barely scrape by. I
    >> have students buying brand new cars and I can't even afford a new
    >> car. Somethings wrong with this picture! I think it's likely I
    >> will exit k-12 teaching in a year or two to complete other goals
    >> and earn a better income and then return to teaching possibly
    >> later after i've built a nestegg. Sorry, but I guess I'm not that
    >> altruistic as some of you or I live in a place called the real
    >> world.
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> On 3/08/08, Teacher wrote:
    >>> If you hate teaching so much in Georgia than do all Georgians a
    >>> favor and leave! I can see having some complaints, but you go
    >>> on and on about Unions and how bad it is Hey, kids are kids and
    >>> they don't know about unions and whether or not you have a duty
    >>> free lunch. Don't get me wrong, I moved to NC from Michigan for
    >>> a job and I am pro-Union. But jeez, you bring me
    >>> down....Others if you want to know what its like down here be
    >>> sure to get several opinions! We can talk about how teachers are
    >>> not paid like professionals and all the stuff we have to put up
    >>> with all night long....but the reason we choose this job is
    >>> because we want to make a difference in the lives of kids. At
    >>> the end of the day its what we do in those hours we are in the
    >>> same room with the kids. I think the best teachers I have seen
    >>> are focused on that interaction and the gift of another day with
    >>> our students.

     
     

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