Re: Missing Michigan
Posted by i will defend missing mi on 3/09/08

I agree with almost everything Missing MI says....Teachers are made
to feel that if they are paycheck to paycheck, lunch
babysitters "that they got what they asked for" by getting into
this profession. Teachers down South are rarely treated with
respect. I work at a charter school in MI and mommies don't come
into help, we have to eat with our kids. I'm sorry but that
doesn't benefit the kids to have a teacher that hasn't had any
relief time. Teachers need a break, ask someone "How do you feel
about having 25 five year olds from 8-3 everyday?" They will get a
priceless look on their face and probably say "No thanks" so while
Missing MI complains she has some good points that some people just
don't understand. We are professionals and why some of you have
lowered your standards I don't know. To Missing MI: you have valid
points and I agree whole heartedly with you, but my suggestion,
when people get on here, don't say "move out of michigan" that
seems to be your answer for everything, i guess just don't be rude
and be a little more sensitive to other people's situations.


On 3/09/08, Ticked off PROFESSIONAL wrote:
> On 3/08/08, Teacher wrote:
>> We can talk about how teachers are
>> not paid like professionals and all the stuff we have to put up
>> with all night long....but the reason we choose this job is
>> because we want to make a difference in the lives of kids.
>
> I absolutely hate this arguement. Its so flawed and full of crap!
> How dare you presume to know why I, or anyone else, went into
> teaching.
>
> In no profession is there a universal reason why everyone went
> into the profession. This includes teaching. Some cops, for
> instance, went into their field because they had an intrinsic,
> altruistic motivation to help people and fight crime. Others went
> in because they like uniforms and think carrying a gun is cool.
> Now that doesn't mean that the uniform/gun guy isn't a great cop,
> and that the "help people" guy is off the force in a year.
>
> Its the same thing in our field. Some went in for all the
> intrinsic, "save-the-world" stuff, and some like me wanted a
> steady job with decent pay, benefits, retirement, and summers off.
>
> Now guess what?? I'm a freaking great teacher! I've never had
> anything under an "Excellent" evaluation, even on my first year.
> I teach sped and have taken kids who at 15 can't read, can't even
> start the Gates-MacGinitie, and taken them to reading at the 8th
> grade level by the time they're 18. I've had parents cry in my
> office in gratitude. Yeah, I've had my failures, but I'd take my
> 8 years of teaching, stack it up against everyone else, and
> guarantee you I'm well above average in the "making a difference"
> catagory.
>
> Guess what? Many of the people who started with me who were going
> to help every child and save the world are not teaching anymore!
> They realized they can't save the world in a high school, and that
> they can't impact every single kid, so they got frustrated and
> left!
>
> Don't you dare say teachers who have the backbone to demand decent
> treatment and wages aren't good at their job! Not wanting to
> watch kids at lunch doesn't make us bad teachers! It makes us bad
> cafeteria employees, but certainly not bad teachers! My not
> wanting to watch kids throw fries at each other, FOR NO PAY, does
> not make me uncaring. It just means I have some self respect for
> myself and my profession.
>
> In my experience, the bleeding hearts are crying in the teaching
> lounge because some kid told him/her to F-off, while the more
> pragmatic of us would brush that off and teach. When people feel
> valued as professionals, they put forth a good effort and expect
> fair treatment and compensation back. Thats a good system! When
> people feel like they're doing charity work, they loose their
> enthusiasm when they realize the streets aren't paved with gold
> and eventually quit. You want volunteers teaching kids? People
> pure of heart? Then have a bunch of mommies come in to donate
> their time and see how well they teach. See how long they keep
> coming in too!
>

Posts on this thread, including this one

• Leaving Michigan, 3/07/08, by Northern Grad.
• Re: Leaving Michigan, 3/07/08, by Chicagomark.
• Re: Leaving Michigan, 3/07/08, by Missing MI.
• Re: Grand Rapids?, 3/08/08, by Torn.
• Re: Missing Michigan, 3/08/08, by Teacher.
• Re: Missing Michigan, 3/08/08, by In Defense.
• Re: Grand Rapids?, 3/08/08, by Grand rapids public has not settled contract yet.
• Re: Missing Michigan, 3/08/08, by You have some shallow standards..
• Re: Missing Michigan, 3/08/08, by CJC.
• Re: Missing Michigan, 3/09/08, by Ticked off PROFESSIONAL.
• Re: Missing Michigan, 3/09/08, by i will defend missing mi.
• Re: Your sterotypes make you look very small!, 3/09/08, by trey.
• Re: Your sterotypes make you look very small!, 3/09/08, by Marie.
• Re: Missing Michigan, 3/09/08, by Ticked off....
• Re: Your sterotypes make you look very small!, 3/09/08, by ticked off in Michigan.
• Re: Your sterotypes make you look very small!, 3/10/08, by Try again to get it right please..
• Re: Your sterotypes make you look very small!, 3/10/08, by Actually I can compare...
• Re: to TICKED OFF!, 3/10/08, by Teacher.
• Re: Your sterotypes make you look very small!, 3/10/08, by Marie.
• Re: Your sterotypes make you look very small!, 3/10/08, by Ticked off!!!.
• Re: Your sterotypes make you look very small!, 3/11/08, by You are wrong on your info. Experience is the answer..
• Re: Your sterotypes make you look very small!, 3/11/08, by Ticked off.
• Re: Ticked off, 3/11/08, by Blake T..
• Re: Your sterotypes make you look very small!, 3/13/08, by goldy.
• Re: The guy from GA is a pain!!, 3/13/08, by Missing MI.
• Re: I love you, Ticked Off!!, 3/13/08, by Missing MI.
• Re: Another Perspective, 3/14/08, by Older Teacher.
• Re: Another Perspective, 3/16/08, by Missing MI.
• Re: Another Perspective, 3/16/08, by You Win.
• Re: Another Perspective, 3/17/08, by ....
• Re: Another Perspective, 3/18/08, by Missing MI.
• Re: Another Perspective, 3/18/08, by ....
• Re: Another Perspective, 3/18/08, by Mark.
• Re: Another Perspective, 3/18/08, by Missing MI.
• Re: Another Perspective, 3/19/08, by ....
• Re: Another Perspective, 3/19/08, by Mark.
• Re: Another Perspective, 3/19/08, by Me.
• Re: Another Perspective, 3/20/08, by ....
• Re: Another Perspective, 3/20/08, by mark.
• Re: Leaving Michigan, 5/06/08, by Michelle.

 
 
 

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