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Re: Your sterotypes make you look very small!
Posted by Marie on 3/09/08

    I am actually from Georgia (south of Atlanta) and moved to MI, husband
    was transferred. Us Southerners don't know what we're missing (duty
    free lunch, prep time etc.) These are all good things, maybe Missing
    MI isn't saying things the right way but I get her point. I always
    thought Gwinnett County paid better than most districts in GA, but I
    guess when you come down from Birminigham, MI, your pay seems very
    small. My life doesn't suck at all, like you seem to think. I don't
    think you'll find one person that prefers to have no prep and no lunch
    hour, most people would like to have a duty free lunch and prep time
    to take a breather. It's more beneficial to the students, and isn't
    that what it's all about, according to you. I do agree that Missing
    MI hasn't been in GA long enough to make all those comments but unless
    you know how lucky these teachers have it up here, you can't compare.


    On 3/09/08, trey wrote:
    > So if you are such an expert on Southern teaching, how many years
    have
    > you taught there, and in what district?? You only make your
    reasoning
    > seem ignorant, and bitter when you make stereotyping comments about
    > something you know little or nothing. Your defense of Missing
    > Michigan, who has been asked to stay off the Michigan and Georgia
    > boards by her peers, with your small-minded, angry, disjointed,
    > ramblings, only makes you appear very much like her.
    >
    > Basically, put up or shut up. You don't like what you are doing, or
    > where you are at, then do something about it. Making excuses for why
    > your life sucks is not something people really care about. Missing
    > Michigan is a self-absorbed, whiny, wanna-be teacher who doesn't have
    > a clue about anything other than her self-centered world. She spends
    > her time complaining, criticizing, and insulting everyone and
    > everything and that includes both Georgia AND Michigan.
    >
    > On second thought, you two would make a perfect pair.
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > On 3/09/08, i will defend missing mi wrote:
    >> I agree with almost everything Missing MI says....Teachers are made
    >> to feel that if they are paycheck to paycheck, lunch
    >> babysitters "that they got what they asked for" by getting into
    >> this profession. Teachers down South are rarely treated with
    >> respect. I work at a charter school in MI and mommies don't come
    >> into help, we have to eat with our kids. I'm sorry but that
    >> doesn't benefit the kids to have a teacher that hasn't had any
    >> relief time. Teachers need a break, ask someone "How do you feel
    >> about having 25 five year olds from 8-3 everyday?" They will get a
    >> priceless look on their face and probably say "No thanks" so while
    >> Missing MI complains she has some good points that some people just
    >> don't understand. We are professionals and why some of you have
    >> lowered your standards I don't know. To Missing MI: you have valid
    >> points and I agree whole heartedly with you, but my suggestion,
    >> when people get on here, don't say "move out of michigan" that
    >> seems to be your answer for everything, i guess just don't be rude
    >> and be a little more sensitive to other people's situations.
    >>
    >>
    >> On 3/09/08, Ticked off PROFESSIONAL wrote:
    >>> On 3/08/08, Teacher wrote:
    >>>> We can talk about how teachers are
    >>>> not paid like professionals and all the stuff we have to put up
    >>>> with all night long....but the reason we choose this job is
    >>>> because we want to make a difference in the lives of kids.
    >>>
    >>> I absolutely hate this arguement. Its so flawed and full of crap!
    >>> How dare you presume to know why I, or anyone else, went into
    >>> teaching.
    >>>
    >>> In no profession is there a universal reason why everyone went
    >>> into the profession. This includes teaching. Some cops, for
    >>> instance, went into their field because they had an intrinsic,
    >>> altruistic motivation to help people and fight crime. Others went
    >>> in because they like uniforms and think carrying a gun is cool.
    >>> Now that doesn't mean that the uniform/gun guy isn't a great cop,
    >>> and that the "help people" guy is off the force in a year.
    >>>
    >>> Its the same thing in our field. Some went in for all the
    >>> intrinsic, "save-the-world" stuff, and some like me wanted a
    >>> steady job with decent pay, benefits, retirement, and summers off.
    >>>
    >>> Now guess what?? I'm a freaking great teacher! I've never had
    >>> anything under an "Excellent" evaluation, even on my first year.
    >>> I teach sped and have taken kids who at 15 can't read, can't even
    >>> start the Gates-MacGinitie, and taken them to reading at the 8th
    >>> grade level by the time they're 18. I've had parents cry in my
    >>> office in gratitude. Yeah, I've had my failures, but I'd take my
    >>> 8 years of teaching, stack it up against everyone else, and
    >>> guarantee you I'm well above average in the "making a difference"
    >>> catagory.
    >>>
    >>> Guess what? Many of the people who started with me who were going
    >>> to help every child and save the world are not teaching anymore!
    >>> They realized they can't save the world in a high school, and that
    >>> they can't impact every single kid, so they got frustrated and
    >>> left!
    >>>
    >>> Don't you dare say teachers who have the backbone to demand decent
    >>> treatment and wages aren't good at their job! Not wanting to
    >>> watch kids at lunch doesn't make us bad teachers! It makes us bad
    >>> cafeteria employees, but certainly not bad teachers! My not
    >>> wanting to watch kids throw fries at each other, FOR NO PAY, does
    >>> not make me uncaring. It just means I have some self respect for
    >>> myself and my profession.
    >>>
    >>> In my experience, the bleeding hearts are crying in the teaching
    >>> lounge because some kid told him/her to F-off, while the more
    >>> pragmatic of us would brush that off and teach. When people feel
    >>> valued as professionals, they put forth a good effort and expect
    >>> fair treatment and compensation back. Thats a good system! When
    >>> people feel like they're doing charity work, they loose their
    >>> enthusiasm when they realize the streets aren't paved with gold
    >>> and eventually quit. You want volunteers teaching kids? People
    >>> pure of heart? Then have a bunch of mommies come in to donate
    >>> their time and see how well they teach. See how long they keep
    >>> coming in too!
    >>>

     
     

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