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Re: Another Perspective
Posted by Mark on 3/19/08
On 3/19/08, ... wrote: > I am not saying it's wrong, it's just not realistic... If its not realistic, then why do we make good money in Michigan? Other states also manage to pay well. Friends in Chicago make about what I do, though their benefits seem a bit softer. I know suburban NYC and Connecticut pays well. Much of California pays well and has good benefits. There are other areas too that manage to pay their teachers a decent wage. You said you could make more money as a manager at a Wal-mart. Then you're not a public school teacher in Michigan, unless we're talking about managing a whole Wal-mart store, which they just don't take someone off the street to do that. Look, your 100 perent for the kids comment just gets me mad. Not so much at you, but at this mindset in our profession. I'm a teacher for a myriad of reasons. I love helping students, special ed students BTW, learn when they might not otherwise if I wasn't there. However, I'm not going to feel bad about being able to live in my district, which has homes, prior to the housing collapse anyway, in the $300,000 range (I don't live there, but I could). I'm not going to feel bad about wanting to lease a new mid-sized car every few years. Not an Audi or a Lexus, but I don't think teachers should have to hitch a ride in the back of a rusty pick-up to get to work either. My wife, a nurse, is in a field where caring and helping others is as much, or more, a part of her job as it is mine. She is not expected to stay for free when asked to do extra, and she's asked all the time! Still, teachers in some areas are expected to serve on comittees for free, chaperone dances for free, watch cafeterias for free, and coach or support after-school activities for very little compensation because its "for the kids." If we don't do it, we're bad teachers or not in the field for the "right" reasons. Never mind that I've helped a student with dyslexia read near grade level at 16 when he's spent his whole life being unable to get through a grade 2 book! Never mind that I got a kid with autism to not freak out when the lights get turned off. Nope, I'm a bad teacher because I don't want to sit on a comittee to study some stratagy that'll be tossed out in 2 years, or watch the cafeteria, or coach a sport that I've never even SEEN played before and have no concept of the rules. I just want teachers, as a group, to realize that we're professionals and TEACHERS, not lunch room attendants, coaches, or babysitters, and we're doing something important and should be paid accordingly.
Posts on this thread, including this one
- Leaving Michigan, 3/07/08, by Northern Grad.
- Re: Leaving Michigan, 3/07/08, by Chicagomark.
- Re: Leaving Michigan, 3/07/08, by Missing MI.
- Re: Grand Rapids?, 3/08/08, by Torn.
- Re: Missing Michigan, 3/08/08, by Teacher.
- Re: Missing Michigan, 3/08/08, by In Defense.
- Re: Grand Rapids?, 3/08/08, by Grand rapids public has not settled contract yet.
- Re: Missing Michigan, 3/08/08, by You have some shallow standards..
- Re: Missing Michigan, 3/08/08, by CJC.
- Re: Missing Michigan, 3/09/08, by Ticked off PROFESSIONAL.
- Re: Missing Michigan, 3/09/08, by i will defend missing mi.
- Re: Your sterotypes make you look very small!, 3/09/08, by trey.
- Re: Your sterotypes make you look very small!, 3/09/08, by Marie.
- Re: Missing Michigan, 3/09/08, by Ticked off....
- Re: Your sterotypes make you look very small!, 3/09/08, by ticked off in Michigan.
- Re: Your sterotypes make you look very small!, 3/10/08, by Try again to get it right please..
- Re: Your sterotypes make you look very small!, 3/10/08, by Actually I can compare...
- Re: to TICKED OFF!, 3/10/08, by Teacher.
- Re: Your sterotypes make you look very small!, 3/10/08, by Marie.
- Re: Your sterotypes make you look very small!, 3/10/08, by Ticked off!!!.
- Re: Your sterotypes make you look very small!, 3/11/08, by You are wrong on your info. Experience is the answer..
- Re: Your sterotypes make you look very small!, 3/11/08, by Ticked off.
- Re: Ticked off, 3/11/08, by Blake T..
- Re: Your sterotypes make you look very small!, 3/13/08, by goldy.
- Re: The guy from GA is a pain!!, 3/13/08, by Missing MI.
- Re: I love you, Ticked Off!!, 3/13/08, by Missing MI.
- Re: Another Perspective, 3/14/08, by Older Teacher.
- Re: Another Perspective, 3/16/08, by Missing MI.
- Re: Another Perspective, 3/16/08, by You Win.
- Re: Another Perspective, 3/17/08, by ....
- Re: Another Perspective, 3/18/08, by Missing MI.
- Re: Another Perspective, 3/18/08, by ....
- Re: Another Perspective, 3/18/08, by Mark.
- Re: Another Perspective, 3/18/08, by Missing MI.
- Re: Another Perspective, 3/19/08, by ....
- Re: Another Perspective, 3/19/08, by Mark.
- Re: Another Perspective, 3/19/08, by Me.
- Re: Another Perspective, 3/20/08, by ....
- Re: Another Perspective, 3/20/08, by mark.
- Re: Leaving Michigan, 5/06/08, by Michelle.
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