Re: Another Perspective
Posted by Me on 3/19/08

Which teachers do you remember most, the ones who taught you well or the ones who taught you
well but inspired you, made sense of the world to you and showed you that there is more to
life than what goes on inside the classroom walls?

Of course teacher deserve more pay and better benefits. DUH. We work our buts off but so
do janitors and so do Wall Street Brokers and so do police officers. You are wishing that
teachers got paid what they deserve, yeah will i wish that everyday too but I don't dwell on
it and complain about it and try to bring everyone down about it. Teaching is a GREAT
profession, no matter what we are paid. What's more important about teaching is who the
principal is and the school climate and culture. That's what makes or breaks teaching, not
the pay. If you want mre money, then get a different job. At least that way I won't have
to listen to all the comlaining, I'm sorry, but you are not going to get a significant pay
raise anytime soon. We are public workers, like police offices. We push paper and all that
beauracratic stuff but at the end of the day we aren't doing this job for that and we aren't
doing it for the money. I agree you can advocate for more pay and working conditions but
no ones listens to people who complain like they deserve more oney just because they are a
teacher.

On 3/18/08, Mark wrote:
> On 3/18/08, ... wrote:
>> you do work because you want to make money, and you can determine how many bills you
>> have. I do not have an extravagant house or a fancy car because I know I cannot
>> afford it. I could be a manager at Wal-Mart making more money than I do now, but
>> would never dream of it because I know I have a positive impact on my kids lives
>> everyday. You may work because of the money, but you have a choice in where you
>> work. And if someone is not there 100&37; for the kids, then they shouldn't be there at
>> all.
>
> No, I reject that. We're not the peace corps, we're not priests. We don't and shouldn't
> have to take a vow of poverty to become teachers. In areas where they do have to take
> such a vow, they have mostly bad teachers. Obviously if we wanted to be rich, we'd be in a
> different field, but don't you dare make people feel guilty for wanting to be middle-class
> and afford a decent home and car while they have Master's degrees!
>
> Bad teachers are ones that don't teach well, by the way. Good teachers are those who help
> students learn. End of story. There are many bad teachers who are "100 percent" for the
> kids and they think their "selfless" attitude makes up for the fact that they aren't
> effective teachers. There are many teachers who are excellent, but they'd leave the
> profession if they were told they're loosing 30 percent of their pay next year.
>
> It is not wrong for teachers to demand good pay, treatment, and benefits. This leads to
> attracting better people into the profession, which helps kids a lot more than good
> feelings.

Posts on this thread, including this one

• Leaving Michigan, 3/07/08, by Northern Grad.
• Re: Leaving Michigan, 3/07/08, by Chicagomark.
• Re: Leaving Michigan, 3/07/08, by Missing MI.
• Re: Grand Rapids?, 3/08/08, by Torn.
• Re: Missing Michigan, 3/08/08, by Teacher.
• Re: Missing Michigan, 3/08/08, by In Defense.
• Re: Grand Rapids?, 3/08/08, by Grand rapids public has not settled contract yet.
• Re: Missing Michigan, 3/08/08, by You have some shallow standards..
• Re: Missing Michigan, 3/08/08, by CJC.
• Re: Missing Michigan, 3/09/08, by Ticked off PROFESSIONAL.
• Re: Missing Michigan, 3/09/08, by i will defend missing mi.
• Re: Your sterotypes make you look very small!, 3/09/08, by trey.
• Re: Your sterotypes make you look very small!, 3/09/08, by Marie.
• Re: Missing Michigan, 3/09/08, by Ticked off....
• Re: Your sterotypes make you look very small!, 3/09/08, by ticked off in Michigan.
• Re: Your sterotypes make you look very small!, 3/10/08, by Try again to get it right please..
• Re: Your sterotypes make you look very small!, 3/10/08, by Actually I can compare...
• Re: to TICKED OFF!, 3/10/08, by Teacher.
• Re: Your sterotypes make you look very small!, 3/10/08, by Marie.
• Re: Your sterotypes make you look very small!, 3/10/08, by Ticked off!!!.
• Re: Your sterotypes make you look very small!, 3/11/08, by You are wrong on your info. Experience is the answer..
• Re: Your sterotypes make you look very small!, 3/11/08, by Ticked off.
• Re: Ticked off, 3/11/08, by Blake T..
• Re: Your sterotypes make you look very small!, 3/13/08, by goldy.
• Re: The guy from GA is a pain!!, 3/13/08, by Missing MI.
• Re: I love you, Ticked Off!!, 3/13/08, by Missing MI.
• Re: Another Perspective, 3/14/08, by Older Teacher.
• Re: Another Perspective, 3/16/08, by Missing MI.
• Re: Another Perspective, 3/16/08, by You Win.
• Re: Another Perspective, 3/17/08, by ....
• Re: Another Perspective, 3/18/08, by Missing MI.
• Re: Another Perspective, 3/18/08, by ....
• Re: Another Perspective, 3/18/08, by Mark.
• Re: Another Perspective, 3/18/08, by Missing MI.
• Re: Another Perspective, 3/19/08, by ....
• Re: Another Perspective, 3/19/08, by Mark.
• Re: Another Perspective, 3/19/08, by Me.
• Re: Another Perspective, 3/20/08, by ....
• Re: Another Perspective, 3/20/08, by mark.
• Re: Leaving Michigan, 5/06/08, by Michelle.

 
 
 

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