SUBSCRIBE chat center Chatboards|Lessons|Projects|Classifieds|Mailrings|Gazette|Jobs|Harry Wong|Live!|Advertise CHATBOARD MAILRING LESSONS SUBMIT POST ALL POSTS TOP POSTS Share | Print | Report Post MI Teachers Chatboard Search Teachers.Net Advanced Quick Links: Set Subscribe to MI-Teachers Hot Now... • July 2008 Gazette • Teacher Tech Center • The Lesson Bank Most Popular • Set Your Quick Links • Chat Center • All Chatboards • Lesson Bank • Teacher Mailrings • Project Center • Classified Ads • Live Chat & Meetings Select by • State/Region • Grade Level • Curriculum • Interest Group • Teaching Method Special Topics • Technology • Languages • Hot Topics • Career Center • Distance Learning • Fundraising • Tutoring Center • Teacher's Bookshelf • Free Printables • Classroom Photos • Meeting Archive • Teaching Articles • Library • Web Tools • Webring • Search • Advertise   Re: Another Perspective Posted by mark on 3/20/08 On 3/19/08, Me wrote: > Which teachers do you remember most, the ones who taught you well or the ones who taught you > well but inspired you, made sense of the world to you and showed you that there is more to > life than what goes on inside the classroom walls? Who I remember doesn't matter. I remember very vibrant, happy teachers, who in retrospect weren't good teachers. Who taught well is what makes a difference, especially in my field of special ed. It can be the difference between reading and not reading. Between being able to get a job and being homeless in the future. > Of course teacher deserve more pay and better benefits. DUH. "DUH" yes, exactly... Actually if you read my post, I didn't say we deserve MORE money in Michigan. Our state has it right, more or less, in the public school system. Other states and privates/charters have it wrong. We work our buts off but so > do janitors and so do Wall Street Brokers and so do police officers. The janitor in my school doesn't work very hard, but some do. They probably get paid about what they deserve because it doesn't require many skills. Wall Street brokers usually make VERY good money if they're any good. They're usually good because they got to Wall Street so no trouble there. Police Officers usually make pretty close to what teachers make, plus they get overtime. Considering they sometimes only require a high school diploma or maybe an associate's degree, that's probably good. Teaching is a GREAT > profession, no matter what we are paid. What's more important about teaching is who the > principal is and the school climate and culture. That's what makes or breaks teaching, not > the pay. If you want mre money, then get a different job. At least that way I won't have > to listen to all the comlaining, I'm sorry, but you are not going to get a significant pay > raise anytime soon. We are public workers, like police offices. We push paper and all that > beauracratic stuff but at the end of the day we aren't doing this job for that and we aren't > doing it for the money. I agree you can advocate for more pay and working conditions but > no ones listens to people who complain like they deserve more oney just because they are a > teacher. Posts on this thread, including this one Leaving Michigan, 3/07/08, by Northern Grad. Re: Leaving Michigan, 3/07/08, by Chicagomark. Re: Leaving Michigan, 3/07/08, by Missing MI. Re: Grand Rapids?, 3/08/08, by Torn. Re: Missing Michigan, 3/08/08, by Teacher. Re: Missing Michigan, 3/08/08, by In Defense. Re: Grand Rapids?, 3/08/08, by Grand rapids public has not settled contract yet. Re: Missing Michigan, 3/08/08, by You have some shallow standards.. Re: Missing Michigan, 3/08/08, by CJC. Re: Missing Michigan, 3/09/08, by Ticked off PROFESSIONAL. Re: Missing Michigan, 3/09/08, by i will defend missing mi. Re: Your sterotypes make you look very small!, 3/09/08, by trey. Re: Your sterotypes make you look very small!, 3/09/08, by Marie. Re: Missing Michigan, 3/09/08, by Ticked off.... Re: Your sterotypes make you look very small!, 3/09/08, by ticked off in Michigan. Re: Your sterotypes make you look very small!, 3/10/08, by Try again to get it right please.. Re: Your sterotypes make you look very small!, 3/10/08, by Actually I can compare... Re: to TICKED OFF!, 3/10/08, by Teacher. Re: Your sterotypes make you look very small!, 3/10/08, by Marie. Re: Your sterotypes make you look very small!, 3/10/08, by Ticked off!!!. Re: Your sterotypes make you look very small!, 3/11/08, by You are wrong on your info. Experience is the answer.. Re: Your sterotypes make you look very small!, 3/11/08, by Ticked off. Re: Ticked off, 3/11/08, by Blake T.. Re: Your sterotypes make you look very small!, 3/13/08, by goldy. Re: The guy from GA is a pain!!, 3/13/08, by Missing MI. Re: I love you, Ticked Off!!, 3/13/08, by Missing MI. Re: Another Perspective, 3/14/08, by Older Teacher. Re: Another Perspective, 3/16/08, by Missing MI. Re: Another Perspective, 3/16/08, by You Win. Re: Another Perspective, 3/17/08, by .... Re: Another Perspective, 3/18/08, by Missing MI. Re: Another Perspective, 3/18/08, by .... Re: Another Perspective, 3/18/08, by Mark. Re: Another Perspective, 3/18/08, by Missing MI. Re: Another Perspective, 3/19/08, by .... Re: Another Perspective, 3/19/08, by Mark. Re: Another Perspective, 3/19/08, by Me. Re: Another Perspective, 3/20/08, by .... Re: Another Perspective, 3/20/08, by mark. Re: Leaving Michigan, 5/06/08, by Michelle.       June: The 30 Days of Teachers.Net (Introduction) 1 The Gazette 2 The Mailrings 3 Harry Wong 4 Lesson Bank 5 Tech Center 6 Teacher Classifieds 7 State Teachers.Net 8 Live Chat & Meetings 9 Teacher Printables 10 Project Center 11 Chatboard Network 12 Share Teachers.Net 13 Your Feedback 14 Interest Groups 15 Administrators.Net 16 Chat Center 17 Streaming Teacher Video 18 Tutoring Center 19 Academic Grants 20 Teachers.Net Bookshelf 21 Chatboard Tips 22 Grade Levels 23 Staffroom Flyer 24 Teachers.Net Archives 25 Hot Topics 26 Language Arts 27 Subject Areas 28 Quick Links 29 Meet Teachers.Net 30 Summer Job Fair

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