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Re: feeling trapped and not sure what to do
Posted by people are different.... on 8/14/08

Obviously, "need help" needs to search his/her heart. There are those
who have an iron will and could take a job like this. There are
others who cannot. They are not worse or weak, they're just the way
they are. So need help, YOU know what is best for YOU...that's what
you need to do...

On 8/14/08, juju wrote:
> Glad I could entertain you. There are a lot of characters on this
> site who keep things interresting. As I said before, if you are
> doing a good job, not everyone is going to like you. It is
> unfortunate that you think my posts are, well you know. If I said
> something to challenge your beliefs, good, I am always teaching.
>
> I just hate that someone is telling this kid not to take a job
> based on their own bad experience or fears. That is really
> serious advice for a new teacher. Basically you are saying that
> she shouldn't take a chance and should remain unemployed for
> another year. For all the stated reasons, I disagree. But for a
> few rotten things, a teaching job is pretty cherry and anyone who
> is good/lucky enough to get offered a job should jump on it. Plus
> as you said, if the kid hates it, go get a better one next year.
>
> I know you don't like to hear what I have to say, but my heart is
> in the right place, and it is based on 20+ years of experience
> working in all kinds of places...good and bad. For the record, I
> have worked in a "dangerous, urban" district...which on the
> surface was horrible; just under that surface...pathetic stories
> of poverty and hopelessness. Once you get a heart for these kids,
> they are hard to beat. Hindsight being 20/20, I still look back
> and think that the years spent with those kids were the
> most "teachable" moments that I had.
>
> I am a public school teacher, and I don't have to worry about my
> job security anymore. I earned that and I continue to earn that
> everyday. I also support the newbies that have been asked to join
> the ranks. As soon as I was able to get my dream job, I took it,
> and I make no appologies. I hope that for this person too.
>
> Plus, Trapped's post was an grammatical mess...they should be
> thanking their lucky stars that they were offered any job (just
> kidding).
>
> On 8/14/08, LOL! wrote:
>> i had to laugh at this post, while some of the advice is good,
>> this juju person has been on here before and always says a
>> bunch of crap. Obviously juju is a public school teacher who
>> has nothing to worry about when it comes to job security and
>> probably hasn't worked in a dangerous, urban district. Anyway,
>> if you fear for your safety you can always quit later on.
>>
>>
>> On 8/14/08, juju wrote:
>>> Hi Trapped,
>>>
>>> First let me get this out of the way: If you are
>>> threatened, you call the admin, you call the union then you
>>> call the police. It is weak and troublesome that you
>>> wouldn't know what to do. I am really bothered that other
>>> teachers are saying that you are powerless to harassment and
>>> you should not take a job because of fear.
>>>
>>> You did not just apply to McDonalds. You signed up for the
>>> challenges of a professional career. Doctors, Layers,
>>> Accountants, and Teachers all do stuff that challenge people
>>> who don't want to be responsible for their lives. If you
>>> are doing a good job, not everyone is going to like you.
>>> Since you work for the general public, you are going to run
>>> into crazy people, who do crazy things, no matter where you
>>> work.
>>>
>>> Second....Reality Check Rookie: Out of the gate teachers
>>> don't get offered their dream jobs. Right now the best
>>> schools are looking at teachers who have worked successfully
>>> at "bad" schools and have laurels to their credit. That's
>>> why you aren't getting call backs there. I sit on many
>>> interview committees (at a "good" school) and rookie
>>> teachers without experience can't compete with them. Even
>>> if you were lucky enough to get a job at a "good" school,
>>> you are going to get the kids that no other teacher wanted,
>>> and your first year wouldn't be what you dreamed of. Time
>>> to pay your dues rookie.
>>>
>>> I wouldn't consider turning down a teaching job at a PS
>>> right now. Not if I wanted to work this year. It is too big
>>> of a chance to take at this late date. Get your head around
>>> this: pay checks, benifits, union protection, professional
>>> growth, amazing students, cool teachers, retirement,
>>> comrades in the trenches who will smack down death threats.
>>> Those things are for sure. You are thinking of turning down
>>> a job on what might be.
>>>
>>> Plus the PS network of admins is a network you can't even
>>> begin to concieve. They all talk and you turning down a job
>>> would get around faster than you know. I am always amazed
>>> at what my admin knows about people when we sit down to
>>> interview. If they thought you turned down a job because
>>> you were afraid, or you thought you were too good to work
>>> for them...forget about it.
>>>
>>> It is obvious that someone at that school believes in you
>>> and will support you on your road to becomming a master
>>> teacher. It makes admin look stupid if they hired a
>>> horrible teacher so they are not going to let you look
>>> horrible (and being afraid of the student body is
>>> horrible). Admin is aware that the school is nuts and they
>>> are going to protect you and support you. Despite what you
>>> sometimes hear on this board, the principal wants you to
>>> look good. (If you look good, they look good)
>>>
>>> All teaching jobs have sucky moments. This is your
>>> opportunity to start working toward a meaningful career,
>>> where you learn to manage the many challenges of being a
>>> professional. You should be happy that this challenge is so
>>> easy to see (and solve), most problems bite you when you
>>> thought everything was going great. I would rather work
>>> with the population you are talking about anyway. "Good"
>>> kids come with even more troubles i.e. room moms :)
>>>
>>> If you hate it after a few years...apply somewhere else.
>>> You don't have to work there for life. Plus, you will look
>>> soooo much better in the interview than you do now.
>>>
>>>
>>> Toughen Up, sit down and watch "Dangerous Minds", "The Ron
>>> Clark Story", "Freedom Writers", "Mr. Hollands Opus" and any
>>> other cliched movie you can think of, and get pumped up for
>>> your new job.
>>>
>>> Stop being silly,
>>> juju


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Posts on this thread, including this one


• feeling trapped and not sure what to do, 8/05/08, by need help.
• Re: feeling trapped and not sure what to do, 8/05/08, by tak it.
• Re: feeling trapped and not sure what to do, 8/06/08, by CJD.
• Re: feeling trapped and not sure what to do, 8/06/08, by JT.
• Re: feeling trapped and not sure what to do, 8/06/08, by markmi.
• Re: feeling trapped and not sure what to do, 8/14/08, by juju.
• Re: feeling trapped and not sure what to do, 8/14/08, by LOL!.
• Re: feeling trapped and not sure what to do, 8/14/08, by juju.
• Re: feeling trapped and not sure what to do, 8/14/08, by people are different.....