Mary

Posted on 10/02/09

You may want to be sure that you are accepted to a nursing program before you
give up your paying job. From what I have heard there is a long waiting list
to get into some of the community college nursing programs around the Detroit
area. It could be 2-3 years. There are only a limited number of seats per
year. We hear how there is a shortage but that is the fault of the
universities. There is an interest, just can't move them through fast
enough.

Were you asking about Ben Ross becasue you were considering it? I live a
mile away from it. I can tell you the statistics on if you like. Studying
charters has been my advocacy work for the past 10 years.

On 9/30/09, missingmichigan wrote:
> No, I actually work in a public school. It isn't in a rural or urban
> area either, it's a suburb of Phoenix. So, there is no perfect place.
> It looks like I'm going to end up going to nursing school! I think that's
> my only ticket back.
>
>
> On 9/30/09, yikes wrote:
>> Wow, that is brutal. I thought I had it bad! Are you at a charter
>> school? That sounds just like ours... only, dare I say it... worse?
>> Thanksf for the honest feed back. I guess I am so DOWN about my
>> charter school job here, my brain will make up any illusion to hope
>> for! Like a state with jobs, good pay and benefits, that we can move
>> to. I think it's called NeverNever Land or something, cause it only
>> exists in our minds!
>>
>>
>> On 9/29/09, missingmichigan wrote:
>>> At this publice school I work at in AZ, we get two reams of paper
>>> per month and are limited to the number of copies we make per month
>>> even if we buy our own paper. The school does not supply us with
>>> pencils, lined paper, notebooks or folders for the students. They
>>> basically supply us with nothing. More than half of my students
>>> didn't bring in their requested supplies after I had asked so many
>>> times at meet the teacher night, and again in newsletter after
>>> newsletter home.
>>>
>>> We also have to participate in certain amounts of prof. development
>>> on Wednesdays that we don't get paid for. They are even trying to
>>> make us have to do 24 hours on Saturdays throughout the year.
>>>
>>> And this is a big suburb in the W Valley area. It isn't a rural
>>> town or inner city either. I work in a brand new building that was
>>> opened just over a year ago. I guess the teachers just figure they
>>> are lucky to have jobs and dont complain about anything or ask any
>>> questions.
>>>
>>> I spent so much of my own money on supplies for my classroom that
>>> the school didn't provide. They don't give you anything at all to
>>> spend on your classroom. We got textbooks, a bookshelf, desks, and
>>> that's basically it. They don't even supply dry erase markers for
>>> our boards, pencils, papers or anything.
>>>
>>> Think long and hard before you decide to relocate. Ask lots of
>>> questions, especially about the health insurance. I know the pay
>>> is higher in some areas of TX, but health insurance can be costly
>>> for families. I am not sure how it fares in comparison to cost of
>>> living.
>>>
>>> But, think twice before coming to Arizona. I would never come back
>>> again and am applying to nursing school as a last resort to come
>>> back to Michigan.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 9/26/09, to piggyback off what she said... wrote:
>>>> When you say "teachers are treated like crap" is that in ALL of
>>>> those "up and coming" we-have-teaching-jobs states? Why exactly
>>>> are you treated so badly? At my charter school, we have to ASK
>>>> the pricipal for paper, I haven't had a raise in 3 years, and my
>>>> job is threatened every opportunity the principal gets. Is this
>>>> typical for the SW?? (We are thinking about relocating to TX...
>>>> I wonder if things are just as bad there) Feedback appreciated,
>>>> thanks!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 9/25/09, hi wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> ESL is becoming more popular here, especially asian languages
>>>>> and spanish is huge too...don't know if it will help though,
>>>>> there are 10,000 people applying for one job. You have
>>>>> experience teaching so that will put you ahead of the game a
>>>>> little.
>>>>>
>>>>> I worked with someone that worked at Ben Ross...they didn't
>>>>> like but it's a charter, most are not good and not good for
>>>>> long term either. They apparently didn't have a principal
>>>>> for most of the year, admin is all messed up etc. Oh and
>>>>> most kids are from Detroit that says it all.
>>>>>
>>>>> How are the teachers treated badly in AZ? I do believe you
>>>>> just wondering. IF you work at a charter here you're going
>>>>> to get the same treatment I'm assuming.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 9/25/09, missingmichigan wrote:
>>>>>> I work in the Phoenix area. This is my second year teaching
>>>>>> here in the Phoenix area. I would like to come back to
>>>>>> Michigan. I really miss family and friends, and teachers
>>>>>> are treated like crap in Arizona. Anyway, I want to come
>>>>>> back and wonder if it's possible.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm certified in elementary, language arts, and social
>>>>>> studies. Would obtaining and ESL certification help me
>>>>>> obtain a job in Michigan?
>>>>>>

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