I was asking because I interviewed there and was curious
how the school is. I've heard so many negative things
about charter schools. I also received a call from a
charter school called Heritage Academy about a lang. arts
position for 8th grade, but the position was only part-
time. I meant that I was applying to the nursing programs
in Arizona. There is a shorter wait here (2-3 semesters)
and they have less pre requisites than most colleges in
Michigan. I know there is a lot of competition in Michigan
for the nursing programs, and it's nearly impossible to
get in now. I considered it before leaving to Arizona,
but found it was futile to try.

I then considered coming back if I found a teaching job in
Michigan, but then if I did that, it wouldn't be possible
to enter a nursing program unless I'm willing to wait 2
years or more.

On 10/02/09, Mary wrote:
>
> You may want to be sure that you are accepted to a
> nursing program before you give up your paying job.
> From what I have heard there is a long waiting list to
> get into some of the community college nursing programs
> around the Detroit area. It could be 2-3 years. There
> are only a limited number of seats per year. We hear
> how there is a shortage but that is the fault of the
> universities. There is an interest, just can't move
> them through fast enough.
>
> Were you asking about Ben Ross becasue you were
> considering it? I live a mile away from it. I can tell
> you the statistics on if you like. Studying charters
> has been my advocacy work for the past 10 years.
>
> On 9/30/09, missingmichigan wrote:
>> No, I actually work in a public school. It isn't in a
>> rural or urban area either, it's a suburb of Phoenix.
>> So, there is no perfect place. It looks like I'm
>> going to end up going to nursing school! I think
>> that's my only ticket back.
>>
>>
>> On 9/30/09, yikes wrote:
>>> Wow, that is brutal. I thought I had it bad! Are
>>> you at a charter school? That sounds just like
>>> ours... only, dare I say it... worse? Thanksf for
>>> the honest feed back. I guess I am so DOWN about my
>>> charter school job here, my brain will make up any
>>> illusion to hope for! Like a state with jobs, good
>>> pay and benefits, that we can move to. I think it's
>>> called NeverNever Land or something, cause it only
>>> exists in our minds!
>>>
>>>
>>> On 9/29/09, missingmichigan wrote:
>>>> At this publice school I work at in AZ, we get
>>>> two reams of paper per month and are limited to
>>>> the number of copies we make per month even if we
>>>> buy our own paper. The school does not supply us
>>>> with pencils, lined paper, notebooks or folders
>>>> for the students. They basically supply us with
>>>> nothing. More than half of my students didn't
>>>> bring in their requested supplies after I had
>>>> asked so many times at meet the teacher night,
>>>> and again in newsletter after newsletter home.
>>>>
>>>> We also have to participate in certain amounts of
>>>> prof. development on Wednesdays that we don't get
>>>> paid for. They are even trying to make us have to
>>>> do 24 hours on Saturdays throughout the year.
>>>>
>>>> And this is a big suburb in the W Valley area. It
>>>> isn't a rural town or inner city either. I work
>>>> in a brand new building that was opened just over
>>>> a year ago. I guess the teachers just figure they
>>>> are lucky to have jobs and dont complain about
>>>> anything or ask any questions.
>>>>
>>>> I spent so much of my own money on supplies for
>>>> my classroom that the school didn't provide. They
>>>> don't give you anything at all to spend on your
>>>> classroom. We got textbooks, a bookshelf, desks,
>>>> and that's basically it. They don't even supply
>>>> dry erase markers for our boards, pencils, papers
>>>> or anything.
>>>>
>>>> Think long and hard before you decide to
>>>> relocate. Ask lots of questions, especially about
>>>> the health insurance. I know the pay is higher in
>>>> some areas of TX, but health insurance can be
>>>> costly for families. I am not sure how it fares
>>>> in comparison to cost of living.
>>>>
>>>> But, think twice before coming to Arizona. I
>>>> would never come back again and am applying to
>>>> nursing school as a last resort to come back to
>>>> Michigan.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 9/26/09, to piggyback off what she said... wrote:
>>>>> When you say "teachers are treated like
>>>>> crap" is that in ALL of those "up and
>>>>> coming" we-have-teaching-jobs states? Why
>>>>> exactly are you treated so badly? At my charter
>>>>> school, we have to ASK the pricipal for paper,
>>>>> I haven't had a raise in 3 years, and my job is
>>>>> threatened every opportunity the principal
>>>>> gets. Is this typical for the SW?? (We are
>>>>> thinking about relocating to TX... I wonder if
>>>>> things are just as bad there) Feedback
>>>>> appreciated, thanks!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 9/25/09, hi wrote:
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ESL is becoming more popular here, especially
>>>>>> asian languages and spanish is huge
>>>>>> too...don't know if it will help though,
>>>>>> there are 10,000 people applying for one job.
>>>>>> You have experience teaching so that will put
>>>>>> you ahead of the game a little.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I worked with someone that worked at Ben
>>>>>> Ross...they didn't like but it's a charter,
>>>>>> most are not good and not good for long term
>>>>>> either. They apparently didn't have a
>>>>>> principal for most of the year, admin is all
>>>>>> messed up etc. Oh and most kids are from
>>>>>> Detroit that says it all.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How are the teachers treated badly in AZ? I
>>>>>> do believe you just wondering. IF you work at
>>>>>> a charter here you're going to get the same
>>>>>> treatment I'm assuming.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 9/25/09, missingmichigan wrote:
>>>>>>> I work in the Phoenix area. This is my
>>>>>>> second year teaching here in the Phoenix
>>>>>>> area. I would like to come back to
>>>>>>> Michigan. I really miss family and friends,
>>>>>>> and teachers are treated like crap in
>>>>>>> Arizona. Anyway, I want to come back and
>>>>>>> wonder if it's possible.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm certified in elementary, language arts,
>>>>>>> and social studies. Would obtaining and ESL
>>>>>>> certification help me obtain a job in
>>>>>>> Michigan?
>>>>>>>

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