Wow, that is brutal. I thought I had it bad! Are you at a charter
school? That sounds just like ours... only, dare I say it... worse?
Thanksf for the honest feed back. I guess I am so DOWN about my
charter school job here, my brain will make up any illusion to hope
for! Like a state with jobs, good pay and benefits, that we can move
to. I think it's called NeverNever Land or something, cause it only
exists in our minds!

On 9/29/09, missingmichigan wrote:
> At this publice school I work at in AZ, we get two reams of paper
> per month and are limited to the number of copies we make per month
> even if we buy our own paper. The school does not supply us with
> pencils, lined paper, notebooks or folders for the students. They
> basically supply us with nothing. More than half of my students
> didn't bring in their requested supplies after I had asked so many
> times at meet the teacher night, and again in newsletter after
> newsletter home.
>
> We also have to participate in certain amounts of prof. development
> on Wednesdays that we don't get paid for. They are even trying to
> make us have to do 24 hours on Saturdays throughout the year.
>
> And this is a big suburb in the W Valley area. It isn't a rural
> town or inner city either. I work in a brand new building that was
> opened just over a year ago. I guess the teachers just figure they
> are lucky to have jobs and dont complain about anything or ask any
> questions.
>
> I spent so much of my own money on supplies for my classroom that
> the school didn't provide. They don't give you anything at all to
> spend on your classroom. We got textbooks, a bookshelf, desks, and
> that's basically it. They don't even supply dry erase markers for
> our boards, pencils, papers or anything.
>
> Think long and hard before you decide to relocate. Ask lots of
> questions, especially about the health insurance. I know the pay
> is higher in some areas of TX, but health insurance can be costly
> for families. I am not sure how it fares in comparison to cost of
> living.
>
> But, think twice before coming to Arizona. I would never come back
> again and am applying to nursing school as a last resort to come
> back to Michigan.
>
>
>
>
>
> On 9/26/09, to piggyback off what she said... wrote:
>> When you say "teachers are treated like crap" is that in ALL of
>> those "up and coming" we-have-teaching-jobs states? Why exactly
>> are you treated so badly? At my charter school, we have to ASK
>> the pricipal for paper, I haven't had a raise in 3 years, and my
>> job is threatened every opportunity the principal gets. Is this
>> typical for the SW?? (We are thinking about relocating to TX...
>> I wonder if things are just as bad there) Feedback appreciated,
>> thanks!
>>
>>
>> On 9/25/09, hi wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> ESL is becoming more popular here, especially asian languages
>>> and spanish is huge too...don't know if it will help though,
>>> there are 10,000 people applying for one job. You have
>>> experience teaching so that will put you ahead of the game a
>>> little.
>>>
>>> I worked with someone that worked at Ben Ross...they didn't
>>> like but it's a charter, most are not good and not good for
>>> long term either. They apparently didn't have a principal
>>> for most of the year, admin is all messed up etc. Oh and
>>> most kids are from Detroit that says it all.
>>>
>>> How are the teachers treated badly in AZ? I do believe you
>>> just wondering. IF you work at a charter here you're going
>>> to get the same treatment I'm assuming.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 9/25/09, missingmichigan wrote:
>>>> I work in the Phoenix area. This is my second year teaching
>>>> here in the Phoenix area. I would like to come back to
>>>> Michigan. I really miss family and friends, and teachers
>>>> are treated like crap in Arizona. Anyway, I want to come
>>>> back and wonder if it's possible.
>>>>
>>>> I'm certified in elementary, language arts, and social
>>>> studies. Would obtaining and ESL certification help me
>>>> obtain a job in Michigan?
>>>>

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