Re: AESOP and jobulator...

Bethany

Posted on 1/27/10

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This is absolutely ridiculous. There is a monopoly on subbing jobs now and
it is all because of Jobulator. I have worked EVERY DAY for the last 3
years and have been a preferred sub for many teachers but, all of a sudden,
I can't seem to find a job to save my life. This is my income and if it
were my only income I would be in big trouble. I just don't understand why
it has to cost $40 to get this "privileged" information. $40 x 10,000
people already using aesop (per the response from Frontline) means that they
have already raked in $400,000????? It is preposterous to think that it
costs $400,000 to design and upkeep a program... Not only is Frontline being
paid by our schools but the schools also do all the work for them by posting
the jobs and checking in the subs. Then, on top of that, we have to pay
them for the ability to work? I am outraged to say the least.

On 12/31/09, teacher wrote:
>
> No one is forcing you to work for them. If you don't want t pay then
> don't work. A sub is a contract employer. Its the same as working for an
> AMWAy or Avon. You are not guaranteed a job or a paycheck.
>
>
> On 12/31/09, Matthew wrote:
>> Not sure how "at will" employment is at all relevant. The ethics of a
>> private company selling some exclusive access to a government job (or to
>> any job) have nothing to do with what state or country it takes place
>> in. It is corrupt and wrong.
>>
>> Matthew
>>
>> On 12/30/09, teacher wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> It seems to me that you don't have much of a case. Since Michigan
>>> is an "at-will employment" state, there is nothing saying that you
>>> have to work for them.
>>>
>>> On 12/29/09, Matthew wrote:
>>>> David,
>>>>
>>>> I am very surprised that Jobulator is legal at all. Having
>>>> Jobulator will make it easier to get assignments. Since subs
>>>> compete for assignments this means Jobulator offers a competitive
>>>> advantage. Since you are selling it this means you are selling a
>>>> competitive advantage to subs based on your own insider status.
>>>> If I worked somewhere and offered potential employees a phone
>>>> call as soon as a job opened up, for $40, while everyone else had
>>>> to wait for the ad, it would be no less unethical.
>>>> Please consult a third party you trust on the ethical and
>>>> legal problems with Jobulator and rethink your business model. I
>>>> think you have made a huge mistake.
>>>> I'm a sub who is a sworn enemy at this point on ethical
>>>> grounds. I will do everything I can in the future to fight
>>>> against your company because I think you have abused your position.
>>>>
>>>> Matthew
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 10/27/09, David from Frontline, creators of Jobulator and Aesop
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Greetings.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hey MI Sub,
>>>>>
>>>>> I think I can help you clear up some misunderstandings.
>>>>>
>>>>> First, nobody has to buy Jobulator to get jobs. Aesop is
>>>>> always there and it's always free to subs (paid for by the
>>>>> district). In fact, Jobulator simply looks inside your Aesop
>>>>> account and draws its information from there.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jobulator was created in response to the needs of those subs
>>>>> who told us that they were spending a tremendous amount of time
>>>>> in front of their computers, refreshing the screen and waiting
>>>>> for new jobs to appear. They just wanted a way get out of
>>>>> their chairs, without feeling like they would miss something if
>>>>> they did.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jobulator is designed to do just that and we hear that's it's
>>>>> given thousands of subs their lives back. OK, so maybe that's
>>>>> a bit of an exaggeration, but that's how people have told us
>>>>> they feel. They turn-up their speakers, freely walk around the
>>>>> house and are confidant that they'll be notified when jobs come in.
>>>>>
>>>>> Why do charge $40 a YEAR for Jobulator (after the free trial)?
>>>>> We have to, and our experience with the over 10,000 subs who
>>>>> are already using Jobulator confirms that they think it's
>>>>> affordable and worthwhile. On our end, it takes a certain
>>>>> amount of additional back-end infrastructure technology,
>>>>> customer support and of course, programming to create the
>>>>> Jobulator widget and keep it working.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hope that makes sense, and that you'll try Jobulator for free.
>>>>> If it makes sense for you, great. If not, please continue to
>>>>> use Aesop - for free.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hope that's helpful.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best wishes,
>>>>>
>>>>> David from Frontline
>>>>> Creators of Jobulator & Aesop

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