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    Re: Lies and nothing I can do

    Just surprised.

    I would think a district, all things being equal, would want a 39
    year old over the 22 year old because of the life experience and work
    habits she would bring with her. In theory, you wouldn't have to
    worry about late girls' night outs and dates, the planning of the
    wedding, an eventual maternity leave, or two, or three and then
    whether or not the teacher will return (I know many who did
    consecutive maternity leaves of 6-8 years and then NEVER returned).
    Sure, 39 is closer to retirement, but retirement is still 20 years
    away, the others are not.

    Of course, maybe they already have many older teachers in the school
    and were looking for "new" and "fresh".

    I feel for you though, it's hard enough as it is in Ohio. What would
    bother me more, is, like you said, the lies.

    My husband just finished his licensing and is looking for a job. All
    of our friends who are in the profession and in an administrative
    role have told us he will have no problem finding a job because A he
    is male wanting in an elementary school, and B he is 40. I never
    thought that would work against him because everybody told us it
    would work for him. Now I'm thinking YIKES.

    Keep us posted about the attorney conversation and good luck to you!

    On 1/05/09, thanks for the advice wrote:
    > thank you for the advice. I am going to talk to an attorney about
    > it. Can't hurt at this point.
    > On 1/05/09, why lie down and take it???? wrote:
    >> Get an attorney and sue them for age discrimination. You have a
    >> case!
    >> Happened to a woman in our school. She was in her lower 50's
    >> age wise. Did a long term sub, super job, glowing reviews,etc.
    >> when the position came up for hire, they hired a 22 year old
    >> fresh out of college, NO experience in the district.
    >> The older woman sued for age discrimination and won big time!
    >> Not only did she win the case and settlement, she was also
    >> offered a position and is still teaching in the district full
    >> time.
    >> If no one stands up for themselves, what have we gained?????????
    >> On 12/24/08, kathy wrote:
    >>> On 12/19/08, Really steamed wrote:
    >>>> I am just venting here, because I don't think there is
    >>>> anything I can do, but this is my story. I was a long
    >>>> term sub last year and the teacher decided she was not
    >>>> going to return. I applied for the position, as did one
    >>>> other individual. I went through observations,
    >>>> interviews, any hoop thrown my way. Bottom line, the
    >>>> other candidate got the position and I was told it was an
    >>>> administrative decision. I think it was an age decision,
    >>>> she is 22 I am 39, but that is not my gripe.
    >>>> Needless to say as anyone who has tried to get a position
    >>>> in Ohio knows, they are few and far between, so I am
    >>>> subbing again this year. I was subbing at the school
    >>>> yesterday where I did the long term sub and was talking
    >>>> with one of the other teachers at the end of they day.
    >>>> The teacher from next door walked in with a picture of his
    >>>> kids to show and one of them was one of my students last
    >>>> year. I said, "Oh, "Susie" is a nice little girl, how is
    >>>> she doing this year". He told me she was doing fine, but
    >>>> was really sad that I was not her teacher as she really
    >>>> learned a lot in my class. (the class was a gifted
    >>>> pullout class, so the same students are in the class each
    >>>> year). I told him I tried to get the position, but they
    >>>> hired the other person. He looked kind of surprised and
    >>>> says to me "We (meaning the parents) were told you didn't
    >>>> want the position that you just wanted to work part-
    >>>> time." I was dumb-founded. I told him this was not the
    >>>> case at all that I did everything I could to get that
    >>>> position.
    >>>> I am really angry that this is the lie that was told as to
    >>>> why I wasn't in the classroom and someone else was. Why?
    >>>> Why not just tell the truth? The powers that be made a
    >>>> decision to hire this other person. Are they not happy
    >>>> with her and this is a way to justify the mistake they
    >>>> made?
    >>>> For whoever reads this, thank you for listening to my
    >>>> rant, but I am just irked beyond words.
    >>> HI,
    >>> I am really sorry about your experience; very similar to mine
    >>> and I also think age was a factor. On the advice of a
    >>> colleague I just moved on and never went back to that school
    >>> to sub even though they kept calling..desperately a couple
    >>> of times. I went other places to sub and eventually just
    >>> went my own way. Just inform people of the facts and as you
    >>> are a worthy teacher move on and good luck!
    >>> Kathy