Re: Educating teachers who never leave the classroom

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Funny how did you know I was in NE OH? Have you experienced
this frustration?

On 11/16/09, not really a fair system wrote:
> On 11/15/09, Union vs. No Union wrote:
>> I agree that unions are responsible for many things but
>> having been part of
>> a non-union state I still had a duty free lunch and a
>> planning period daily. Luckily, I have never had an
>> power hungry administrator. When I was in a union state
>> I taught everything right down to art, music and p.e.
>> and my planning time was once a week. However, I did
>> have a duty free lunch and never went one year without
>> a raise. Now in my former non-union state teachers will
>> most likely lose 10 days of pay, which they found out
>> about AFTER they signed their contracts. Perhaps I am
>> wrong but at least what I seem to be finding out now in
>> OH that there appears to be some sort of hierarchy that
>> exists for school employees. For example, if a para
>> position were to be posted then those already working
>> as paras would be given first consideration before some
>> "new" person in the district would be given a
>> crack at the job regardless of qualifications. If I am
>> a credentialed teacher with a Master's degree and
>> plenty of classroom experience, why is a person more
>> qualified than I am simply because he/she has been in
>> the district longer. What is wrong with the most
>> qualified person being the right person for the job
>> rather than the next person in line?
>>
>
>
> You are absolutely right about this. The districts in
> Ohio, at least in NE Ohio, will always hire from within
> and only if there is no one qualified from within will
> they open a position to a new person to the district. You
> could have the highest credentials and a reference from
> the president and they would still hire from within. To
> me, this is a huge, huge dis-service to the children we
> are supposed to be looking out for.
>
>
>>
>>
>> On 11/15/09, Cate wrote:
>>> You are 100% correct. Teachers would still be working
>>> in "Little House on the Prairie" 1-room
>>> school houses if unions hadn't stepped up. We would
>>> still have 45 in our first grade classes. And, kids
>>> would be allowed to beat us up if the unions weren't
>>> there to set the laws. You wouldn't have planning
>>> periods and duty free lunches, also. I will happily
>>> pay my dues EVERY year!
>>>
>>> On 11/12/09, Yes wrote:
>>>> Yes, it is true, law does not allow funds of union
>>>> dues to go to political action, unless the member
>>>> decides it.
>>>>
>>>> I don't agree with 100% of the stances
>>>> either....but if it comes down to no union or
>>>> union, I'll take membership, every time. I've been
>>>> too much administrator power grab and bad decisions
>>>> in my near 20 year career that can ruin a teacher's
>>>> career in its tracks to not be a part of a group
>>>> that can protect the individual. Teachers have put
>>>> in too much time and effort in their education and
>>>> craft to have it destroyed by an administrator or
>>>> board.
>>>>
>>>> On 11/11/09, OEA member wrote:
>>>>> You do not have to contribute to the political
>>>>> action committee (PAC) of most teacher unions.
>>>>> That is normally an option.
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>> On 11/07/09, Tanisha wrote:
>>>>>>> I used to work in a charter school where
>>>>>>> there was no union. Now, thank god, I work in
>>>>>>> a school district. I make an amount of money
>>>>>>> I can live on, have good benefits, get to
>>>>>>> attend professional development,and best of
>>>>>>> all can advocate for my students with out
>>>>>>> fear of retribution from administrators who
>>>>>>> are only out to make money. We need our
>>>>>>> unions! Anyways, I support all those issues
>>>>>>> that the NEA supports. Go NEA!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
 

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