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Re: Anyone familiar with Section 8 housing in S.C. (Good pos
Posted by Will Rogers on 7/08/07


    Patty,

    I am headed to Jasper County Schools in the Lowcountry. I agree with what you say below,
    too. I am slated to be a 6th grade social studies teacher at West Hardeeville Elemenary.
    The district has just cleaned out most (they kept 1 asst. principal - mine) of the
    principals and asst. principals...just got a new superintendant.

    My wife found us a nice 3br apartment on lady's island in Beaufort.

    We had out current place broken into, so we are trying to raise the cash to move. I just
    love it here in Western PA. :-( We hve had a continual bad experience out here, unlike the
    rest of the state, but my wife and I have learned a lot, and we now have 2 beautiful girls
    which are a true blessing. :-)

    Depending on the type of life you want to live (uran, suburban, rural), you can find a good
    teacing position in SC. You can check each district's site for openings, and go to
    www.cerra.org and see jobs there on their jobs link. I recommend using www.city-data.com to
    look at demographic informatin wherever you are looking to take a teaching positon,as you
    can compare your salary with the local economic information.

    Is there anything else I can assist with? Please let me know. :-)

    Will

    On 7/07/07, they pay for health care??? wrote:
    > PA teachers pay some for health care?? In MI teacher's pay NOTHING for their premium
    > every month. They have deductibles and co-pays but they don't pay anything for their
    > premium. MI is the WORST state for teaching jobs and I see MI going the way PA is now in
    > regards to health care. Beginning teachers would have difficulties but teachers making
    > $50,000+ can pay some for their premium. Even if it was $20 a month or something, that
    > would be huge after you add it all up. I know the south has problems with education but
    > I think the north is really asking for trouble. Where in South Carolina are you planning
    > on moving will?
    >
    >
    >
    > On 7/07/07, Will Rogers wrote:
    >>
    >> Patty. on the 4,000 - I was shocked too! But it was in the papers, and a couple of
    >> teachers in my grad classes confirmed the number. PHEW!
    >>
    >> As to why I think unions have been bad in PA (A shotr list, can do more n a private e-
    >> mail or phone if you wish, no problem.)
    >>
    >> 1. Steel unions drove wages up so much PA steel factories could not be upgraded, now
    >> the steel mills are less than 10 I was told (By a union rep).
    >>
    >> 2. In the local schools districts, you have a majority of older pennsylvanians in
    >> western pa, and the millage rates keep going up and up and up...on people on a fixed
    >> salary. Who much do you need to make as a teacher? The average person in latrobe gets
    >> around 28,000....teacher salaries top out around her at anywhere from 70,000 to 98,000
    >> depending on the district. I know of one teacher who's salary will go up 16,000 over
    >> the next three years...that is INSANE!
    >>
    >> 3. Pa teachers did not pay for health care until the last few years, everyone else
    >> around them have had payroll deducstion for over 20 years. Is that fair?
    >>
    >> 4. In PA, you have to use ONLY UNIOR LABOR on ALL jobs valued at 10,000 or more. What
    >> ever happened to spending only what you need....you know, save the taxpayers money?
    >>
    >> 5. With very few exceptions, teacher salaries and benefits consume from 30&37; to
    > 48&37; of
    >> the school district budget....that is CRAZY! There needs to be more money IN THE
    >> CLASSROOMS, not a teachers pocket.
    >> a. On the other hand, I think teachers should recieve reduced or free housing in
    >> the district where they teach, get their student loans paid off by the federal
    >> government at the rate of 8&37; every completed teaching year also.
    >> b. We, as teachers, deserve to be taken care of in our communities, not treated
    >> like punching bags, as some administrators treat their teachers. The principals
    >> and administratirs should only be former teachers. Also, school boards need to
    >> have minimum qualifications, or at the very least, be required to be trained
    >> in proper budget properties, instruction, textbook selection, etc. Unlike a
    >> local district (Hempfield) which approved a FIFTEEN MILLION football complex, a
    >> football coach is making over 70,000 a year and doesn't even teach or work for
    >> the district in any other capacity! The team is a periennial loser team, to
    >> boot. To me, that is criminal neglance ( i know I misspelled it) and
    >> malfeasance...and those people who voted for it need to go to jail for a year
    >> or two. I believe it is stealing from the elderly.
    >>
    >> 6. Teachers want to be considered professionals, but hide in unions. I believe if you
    >> want to be treated like managers, managers are not permitted in unions. Also - no
    >> school district can operate when the local teachers (union or not) work together and
    >> report every violation to the proper authorities, take the to court, and have
    >> administrators imprisioned for breaking the law. Instead, most teachers say nothing,
    >> and just take it, because they are NOT properly educated in our political process. They
    >> are great math teachers, english teachers, etc, but the reality is every single teacher
    >> needs to be politically active and politically astute. NO admininstrator is going to
    >> mess with a teacher whom they know talks to the Senators and Congressmen often.
    >> Politics drives EVERYTHING with schools - get educated, and now! PLEASE!
    >>
    >> Well, I'll stop now. Sorry I was ranting there. Teachers have such potiential to
    >> achieve great things, and too many of them just let the opportunities pass them by. I
    >> hope we can find a way to lose the "bad" teachers, and bring in more high-quality
    >> teachers to replace them!
    >>
    >> I wish you the best of luck in all you do. I hope we can all find a way to make our
    >> profession better, and fun at the same time! Any ideas, please let me know, I'm up for
    >> it!
    >>
    >> Will Rogers
    >>
    >>
    >> On 7/06/07, unions no good?? wrote:
    >>> I've been hearing that the unions are destroying the school districts..but I see
    >>> that without them (maybe just in the mid-west) they need them, or else the teachers
    >>> would have serious issues and be treated horribly. What trouble has the unions
    >>> caused for PA??
    >>>
    >>> Patty
    >>>
    >>> P.S. Here in MI we had more like 1,700 applicants, I can't believe 4,000 that is
    >>> INSANITY!!!!
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> On 7/06/07, WillRogers wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>> Let's see...in Western PA, --seriously here now-- it is almost impossible to get
    >>>> jobs right now, as we are between waves of retirements. In 5 or so years, the next
    >>>> waves I am told. Here's how tough it is to get a job in western PA - last year
    >>>> Hempfield school district had 83 job openings, and OVER 4,000 YEA-FOUR THOUSAND
    >>>> applicants! You can get a job in Philadelphia, but I was told wear a flak jacket.
    >>>>
    >>>> South Carolina really needs solid, professional, caring teachers who are willing
    >>> to
    >>>> hang tough until they get established. PA is even tight in the catholic schools. I
    >>>> have a 3.86 GPA with straiight A's in my field (ELEM ED) - and I cannot get a job
    >>>> around here....but after I read and studied the unions round werstern PA, I would
    >>>> not work here. period.
    >>>>
    >>>> PLEASE COME TO SOUTH CAROLINA!!!!
    >>>>
    >>>> Will

     
     

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