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Re: Anyone familiar with Section 8 housing in S.C. (Good pos
Posted by hi will on 7/16/07

    Wow, $32,000 is pretty good for South Carolina! I remember about two or three years ago
    they were really low. Have you moved yet??

    Patty


    On 7/16/07, Will Rogers wrote:
    >
    > I will be living in Beauort, teaching in Jasper County Schools. They just posted the
    salary
    > or next year, and the district raised salaries a good bit. :-) The first reporting date
    for
    > new teachers Aug 10th.....and they hae openings. :-)
    >
    > You coming down?
    >
    > The area is very beautiful, and the folks nice...I'm looking forward to it! I will lear
    > more about the benefits when I get there.
    >
    > Will
    >
    >
    > On 7/07/07, they pay for health care??? wrote:
    >> PA teachers pay some for health care?? In MI teacher's pay NOTHING for their premium
    >> every month. They have deductibles and co-pays but they don't pay anything for their
    >> premium. MI is the WORST state for teaching jobs and I see MI going the way PA is now in
    >> regards to health care. Beginning teachers would have difficulties but teachers making
    >> $50,000+ can pay some for their premium. Even if it was $20 a month or something, that
    >> would be huge after you add it all up. I know the south has problems with education but
    >> I think the north is really asking for trouble. Where in South Carolina are you planning
    >> on moving will?
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> On 7/07/07, Will Rogers wrote:
    >>>
    >>> Patty. on the 4,000 - I was shocked too! But it was in the papers, and a couple of
    >>> teachers in my grad classes confirmed the number. PHEW!
    >>>
    >>> As to why I think unions have been bad in PA (A shotr list, can do more n a private e-
    >>> mail or phone if you wish, no problem.)
    >>>
    >>> 1. Steel unions drove wages up so much PA steel factories could not be upgraded, now
    >>> the steel mills are less than 10 I was told (By a union rep).
    >>>
    >>> 2. In the local schools districts, you have a majority of older pennsylvanians in
    >>> western pa, and the millage rates keep going up and up and up...on people on a fixed
    >>> salary. Who much do you need to make as a teacher? The average person in latrobe gets
    >>> around 28,000....teacher salaries top out around her at anywhere from 70,000 to 98,000
    >>> depending on the district. I know of one teacher who's salary will go up 16,000 over
    >>> the next three years...that is INSANE!
    >>>
    >>> 3. Pa teachers did not pay for health care until the last few years, everyone else
    >>> around them have had payroll deducstion for over 20 years. Is that fair?
    >>>
    >>> 4. In PA, you have to use ONLY UNIOR LABOR on ALL jobs valued at 10,000 or more. What
    >>> ever happened to spending only what you need....you know, save the taxpayers money?
    >>>
    >>> 5. With very few exceptions, teacher salaries and benefits consume from 30&37; to
    >> 48&37; of
    >>> the school district budget....that is CRAZY! There needs to be more money IN THE
    >>> CLASSROOMS, not a teachers pocket.
    >>> a. On the other hand, I think teachers should recieve reduced or free housing in
    >>> the district where they teach, get their student loans paid off by the federal
    >>> government at the rate of 8&37; every completed teaching year also.
    >>> b. We, as teachers, deserve to be taken care of in our communities, not treated
    >>> like punching bags, as some administrators treat their teachers. The principals
    >>> and administratirs should only be former teachers. Also, school boards need to
    >>> have minimum qualifications, or at the very least, be required to be trained
    >>> in proper budget properties, instruction, textbook selection, etc. Unlike a
    >>> local district (Hempfield) which approved a FIFTEEN MILLION football complex, a
    >>> football coach is making over 70,000 a year and doesn't even teach or work for
    >>> the district in any other capacity! The team is a periennial loser team, to
    >>> boot. To me, that is criminal neglance ( i know I misspelled it) and
    >>> malfeasance...and those people who voted for it need to go to jail for a year
    >>> or two. I believe it is stealing from the elderly.
    >>>
    >>> 6. Teachers want to be considered professionals, but hide in unions. I believe if you
    >>> want to be treated like managers, managers are not permitted in unions. Also - no
    >>> school district can operate when the local teachers (union or not) work together and
    >>> report every violation to the proper authorities, take the to court, and have
    >>> administrators imprisioned for breaking the law. Instead, most teachers say nothing,
    >>> and just take it, because they are NOT properly educated in our political process. They
    >>> are great math teachers, english teachers, etc, but the reality is every single teacher
    >>> needs to be politically active and politically astute. NO admininstrator is going to
    >>> mess with a teacher whom they know talks to the Senators and Congressmen often.
    >>> Politics drives EVERYTHING with schools - get educated, and now! PLEASE!
    >>>
    >>> Well, I'll stop now. Sorry I was ranting there. Teachers have such potiential to
    >>> achieve great things, and too many of them just let the opportunities pass them by. I
    >>> hope we can find a way to lose the "bad" teachers, and bring in more high-quality
    >>> teachers to replace them!
    >>>
    >>> I wish you the best of luck in all you do. I hope we can all find a way to make our
    >>> profession better, and fun at the same time! Any ideas, please let me know, I'm up for
    >>> it!
    >>>
    >>> Will Rogers
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> On 7/06/07, unions no good?? wrote:
    >>>> I've been hearing that the unions are destroying the school districts..but I see
    >>>> that without them (maybe just in the mid-west) they need them, or else the teachers
    >>>> would have serious issues and be treated horribly. What trouble has the unions
    >>>> caused for PA??
    >>>>
    >>>> Patty
    >>>>
    >>>> P.S. Here in MI we had more like 1,700 applicants, I can't believe 4,000 that is
    >>>> INSANITY!!!!
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> On 7/06/07, WillRogers wrote:
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Let's see...in Western PA, --seriously here now-- it is almost impossible to get
    >>>>> jobs right now, as we are between waves of retirements. In 5 or so years, the next
    >>>>> waves I am told. Here's how tough it is to get a job in western PA - last year
    >>>>> Hempfield school district had 83 job openings, and OVER 4,000 YEA-FOUR THOUSAND
    >>>>> applicants! You can get a job in Philadelphia, but I was told wear a flak jacket.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> South Carolina really needs solid, professional, caring teachers who are willing
    >>>> to
    >>>>> hang tough until they get established. PA is even tight in the catholic schools. I
    >>>>> have a 3.86 GPA with straiight A's in my field (ELEM ED) - and I cannot get a job
    >>>>> around here....but after I read and studied the unions round werstern PA, I would
    >>>>> not work here. period.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> PLEASE COME TO SOUTH CAROLINA!!!!
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Will
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>> On 7/05/07, question for mr. rogers... wrote:
    >>>>>> Hi,
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> I'm new to the post and was checking out PA and anything south for teaching
    >>>>>> jobs. Is PA like Michigan?? I live in MI and am having a really difficult time
    >>>>>> (I qualified for the the Earned Income Credit on my taxes if that gives you a
    >>>>>> hint and I don't have children) and my parents help me pay my health isurance as
    >>>>>> my job as a paraprofessional is pretty crappy. Is it safe to assume by your post
    >>>>>> that there are no jobs in PA for elementary teachers???? Also, are you from
    >>>>>> South Carolina by any chance?? There was a girl on the MI chat quite some time
    >>>>>> ago that mentioned Greenville Schools Do you know anything about them? I see
    >>>>>> someone else has asked earlier on the post but didn't get much of a response. I
    >>>>>> thought it wouldn't hurt to ask someone....Thanks!
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> -P
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> On 7/05/07, Will Rogers wrote:
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> I worked for John Wieland Homes as a Neighborhood Production Coordinator. It
    >>>>>>> was my job to ensure all the labor and meterials were at each jobsite/home on
    >>>>>>> schedule, the production schedule was maintained for each house, and support
    >>>>>>> the team of builders directing construction at each house.
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> I also completed the permitting process for each house, directed inspections
    >>>>>>> for each house, monitored the budgets of each house/lot.
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> When 9-11 happened, the stock market crashed, and 20&37; of the company was
    >>>>>> laid
    >>>>>>> off. I worked for a parking lot company for a bit after that, but when the
    >>>>>>> shopping in atlanta area died down, so did the job there.
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> My wife wanted to return to her home in Western PA, and we did. (I'm here now
    >>>>>>> since nov 2003) The only problem is jobs are leaving this place like planes
    >>>>>>> launching off an aircraft carrier! Oh well.
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> I liked Wieland, and my work - challenging and never dull, to be sure! Feel
    >>>>>>> free to e-mail me directly if you like, no problem.
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> Will

     
     

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