Re: Thinkin' of moving there...

Theodore A. Jones

Posted on 12/30/09

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On 12/30/09, Charleston Teach wrote:
> rmc,
>
> I am sorry to hear about your troubles!! We are in the
> midst of a horrible economy thanks to unregulated financial
> institutions and over a trillion in spending for pointless
> wars. Our national priorities are horribly skewed! Why
> should we keep borrowing from China in order to be the
> world's policeman??? We can't afford it. Corruption in
> congress (witness the health care bribing fiasco), etc. make
> me very worried for our country (don't feel like we can call
> it a 'nation' anymore- that would imply a fictitious sense
> of unity, at present at least).
>
> rmc is a victim of misplaced priorities- period.
>
> I wish you better luck in 2010!
>
> On 12/29/09, rmc wrote:
>> For those of you thinking of moving here...I moved here
>> to SC because of all
>> the wonderful things I heard about it. I heard it was a
>> great place to live with great teaching opportunities.
>> I recieved my master's degree and teaching credential
>> and guess what...no jobs! nothing, zilch, nada!!! I was
>> told by one district that there were over 1,000
>> applicants competing for only a handful of jobs! I
>> truly believe I could be happy here but I can't make it
>> here without a job. I have a family to support. Now I
>> am stuck, with absolutely no job prospects.
>> Please...for those of you thinking of moving
>> here...unless you have any ties to someone working in
>> the school district you would like to work, it's very
>> difficult to find a teaching job here. I graduated at
>> the top of my class and have several years teaching
>> experience and can't support my family. I moved to
>> South Carolina to have a better life for my children
>> and now feel that this was the worst mistake of my
>> life! Of course, this is only my experience and some
>> may say that one person's story doesn't make a
>> difference, but it does make a difference to me! I
>> don't want anyone else to go through what I'm going
>> through. It's a horrible feeling knowing that it really
>> doesn't matter how much education you have or what
>> credentials you have. There are simply not enough
>> teaching jobs here.

>> Angie I am not a SC classroom teacher but my wife was.
Any state in the US that by law intentionally removes the right
of due process regarding a class, as SC had done to its
teachers, those teachers would be very wise to form collective
bargaining units, if they are wise.
Angie I have not made any pretense of actually being one of
your acquaintences. From the info you have stated about
yourself I suspect you entered the teaching professing by the
route of PACE or TAP or some other preferential program. Both
of those programs give preferential ADEPT training that was not
nor is avaliable to Mrs. Jones. You may be a great teacher, but
that is your opinion. I may be great at the things I do, but
someone else will tell you. It won't be me.
>> On 12/27/09, Angie wrote:
>>> I would also like to note that Theodore DOES NOT know
>>> me nor my situation. I am not nor was I ever given
>>> preferential treatment. I am simply a great teacher
>>> who knows her limits and does her best. DO NOT
>>> pretend to know me, Mr. Jones, as you do not. Also,
>>> you receive your info second hand. Were you ever a
>>> teacher in SC? If so, I have not seen you state that.
>>> You're knowledge is 2nd hand, ours is first hand.
>>>
>>> Mr. Rogers is correct, it is what you make it. :) As
>>> is everything. We don't need Unions here, we know the
>>> difference between right and wrong, we don't need to
>>> pay someone to tell us.
>>>
>>> The choice is yours. I hope you consider working
>>> here, it is GREAT place to live, work, and raise a
>>> family. I was not born and raised here. I moved here
>>> 10 years ago and I have lived all over the country
>>> including Europe. SC is a great place.
>>>
>>> On 12/27/09, Will Rogers wrote:
>>>>
>>>> WE CAN TELL WHO CAME FROM UP NORTH!
>>>>
>>>> It is always what you make of it. Do not think you
>>>> are powerless here, as I learned....it is a matter
>>>> of WHAT you know...study up! My induction classes
>>>> were invaluable from Mrs. Adams, and I utilized
>>>> that information.
>>>>
>>>> YOU ARE NOT UP NORTH! You cannot be rude, lazy, and
>>>> nasty and get away with it here! Just because you
>>>> do not like it, it does not mean someone else
>>>> won't!
>>>>
>>>> Don't be fooled by unions either! I have seen
>>>> unions ruin a teacher faster than can be done here
>>>> in SC! AND I WAS JUST OBSERVING! I was not
>>>> involved, thankfully, with the union. I saw them
>>>> DESTROY a teacher with 25 years of experience just
>>>> so they could get this young girl into the school!!
>>>>
>>>> I no longer have ANY faith in the yankee
>>>> "unions"....they are full of graft,
>>>> theft, dishonesty, and only protect their friends.
>>>>
>>>> All your wife needs to do is to go directly to the
>>>> principal, if necessary the superintendant, and get
>>>> the information! Don't leave your head in the
>>>> sand....GET INFORMATION! If needed, get an
>>>> attorney.
>>>>
>>>> Will
>>>>
>>>>>> As Angie says she is a newbie to SC and that
>>>>>> also means Angie has been given preferential
>>>>>> treatment. What Angie has not told you or does
>>>>>> not know about SC is that when you sign a
>>>>>> teaching contract in SC a SC law intentionally
>>>>>> removes your rights to due process. Your rights
>>>>>> to due process have been removed so that when
>>>>>> the principal or someone else in the district
>>>>>> with authority or a parent decides they don't
>>>>>> like you or you begin to make too much money
>>>>>> out the door you go. My wife was a SC classroom
>>>>>> math teacher for 17 years. We left SC and were
>>>>>> gone for nearly ten years while my wife was
>>>>>> employed as a senior research scientist in math
>>>>>> assement testing. We returned here to care for
>>>>>> my wife's parents and she began teaching again.
>>>>>> Whereas Angie was given preferential treatment
>>>>>> and trained in the ADEPT evaluation system my
>>>>>> wife was not. Even tho my wife was aked to
>>>>>> teach AP cal. AP stats. and two other high
>>>>>> level math cources as a favor for the G/d
>>>>>> Oconee school district as a favor for them and
>>>>>> has a 100% passing rate of all the students she
>>>>>> taught, failing one ADEPT evaluation has ended
>>>>>> her teaching career in SC. My wife was
>>>>>> intentionally not informed of the existance of
>>>>>> the ADEPT evaluation system and even now has no
>>>>>> idea of how to comply with it. So like I said.
>>>>>> You need to make SC a drive thru. For if in
>>>>>> anyway you are not a social fit the
>>>>>> authorioties of a SC school district will tear
>>>>>> you apart and think they have have done God a
>>>>>> favor and SC law lets them get away with it. I
>>>>>> am not a SC school teacher but I really know
>>>>>> the character of the aristrocratic South
>>>>>> Carolinian. Believe me you do not want to teach
>>>>>> school here.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Do not teach in this state. No union protection.
>>>>> No actual "contract." Horrid benefits
>>>>> and a pitiful retirement system. Your
>>>>> administrators/district can and will require
>>>>> things from you that a union state would never,
>>>>> ever get away with. Now, you can take these facts
>>>>> with "a grain of salt," but they are
>>>>> facts never the less. Add to this a statewide
>>>>> mentality of holding education as a very low
>>>>> priority, and you have, as they say, "a
>>>>> mess." Southern hospitality extends as far
>>>>> as your face, because once your back is turned,
>>>>> you better look out. <---That is an opinion,
>>>>> which you may take with a grain of salt, but if I
>>>>> were you, I'd still be watching my back. Bless
>>>>> your heart.

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