FDR's programs were essentially the same as Hitler's and
Mussolini's. Both of those men bailed out companies (as Bush,
Hoover, FDR, and Obama have done), however the swapping of
common stock for preferred stock for the gov't in these
companies as Obama has proposed would give the gov't a large
enough vote in the shareholders meetings to control the company
much as Mussolini did. Many of President Obama's ideas mirror
the corporatism of Mussolini. FDR should not be considered one
of our greatest presidents for his economic work. During his
administration the unemployment rate never dipped below 14%
until 1941 when we began to prepare for war and the avg.
unemployment rate for his term in office until WWII was around
18%. This is hardly successful considering many of the
European countries and Canada were in the Depression a much,
much shorter time than we were. Also, his policies included a
tax that was ultimately thrown out where a business would have
to pay 85% of its after-tax profits in taxes and could not
write off any capital expansion. There was actually a second
depression in 1937-38 and this was on the end of his most
oppressive tax policies that went into place after he gained
control of the court in 1935. A book I highly recommend to
anyone is FDR's Folly by Powell; it is one of the first
economic analyses of the New Deal ever written and it traces
blame back to Hoover and the fools of the Federal Reserve, but
spends most of its time discussing the flaws in FDR's policy
and uses a multitude of numbers to back it up. Also, there was
a negative correlation between what New Deal workers were paid
and how heavily FDR carried their state. The more votes he got
the less the workers were paid and vice versa. This worked as
an elaborate and brilliant vote buying scheme (a marvelous
political move). An instance of this that I specifically
remember from the analyses were the workers in a particular job
from NJ and VA. FDR carried VA by much more than NJ. The
workers in VA made 25 cents an hour and the same workers in NJ
made $1.25/hr.

On 7/02/09, PoliSci wrote:
> Ok Mr(s). History Teacher. Instead of a blank accusation,
> let's have a point by point analysis of how what Obama is
> doing "in some cases replicates what Mussolini and Hitler"
> did. Can you enlighten me? (Or teach me?) I seriously want
> to read it. From what I gather, what Obama is doing is a
> lot like what FDR did (our true Socialist president, now
> considered one of the greatest presidents of all time).
>
> OK, come on. Teach me.
>
>
> On 7/02/09, History teacher wrote:
>> Just wanted to let you know that what Obama is doing
>> economically matches
>> and in some cases replicates the economic policies put
>> in place by Mussolini and Hitler. I also do not
>> understand why you must personally insult others when
>> responding to them; this is a tactic by those who know
>> that they cannot match the other person intellectually,
>> so if you are disregarding the intelligence of another
>> then you really should use another tactic. By the way,
>> CO2 makes up only about 4% of the atmosphere, which is
>> not enough to alter anything.
>>
>> On 7/02/09, Anti-Science Teacher wrote:
>>> On 7/02/09, Science teacher wrote:
>>>> On 7/02/09, Science teacher wrote:
>>>>> On 7/02/09, PoliSci wrote:
>>>>>> Do you even know what a fascist is? While some
>>>>>> lables MAY apply to Obama (even socialist is
>>>>>> oushing it if you look up the definition, and
>>>>>> the GM takeover doesn't really qualify him as
>>>>>> socialist), fascist is NOT one. Look up the
>>>>>> definition. Then think back to the Bush
>>>>>> administration. You could call the
>>>>>> administration fascist and you would be rather
>>>>>> accurate.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think Obama fits the definition very well. He
>>>>> fits it better more every day.
>>>>
>>>> Left off the link title the first time. My apologies.
>>>
>>> From your link:
>>>
>>> 1:often capitalized : a political philosophy,
>>> movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that
>>> exalts nation and often race above the individual and
>>> that stands for a centralized autocratic government
>>> headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and
>>> social regimentation, and forcible suppression of
>>> opposition
>>>
>>> 2: a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong
>>> autocratic or dictatorial
>>>> control >>>> brutality — J. W. Aldridge>
>>>
>>> I feel sorry if you really are a teacher, and that in
>>> your teabagger convoluted mind, this somehow meets
>>> the Democratically elected president of the US. I
>>> missed the whole "dictatorship" and
>>> "race" parts... There is one thing that we
>>> can gather from this, you guys, by your own
>>> admissions, posts, and links, you guys are just not
>>> that well, bright. Oh that's right, that is what they
>>> said on the radio and on Fox News, and I repeat it
>>> here, like your EPA Report.
>>>
>>> You fail at life, and you CONTINUE to prove it here.
>>> Keep it up.

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