Principals are supervised, their supervisor is the
superintendent of schools. They dont have carte blanche. In
Texas we dont have unions.
On 9/20/14, anon wrote:
> It doesn't matter what state you live in, the situation is the
> same nationwide. Teachers are treated like garbage while
> administrators get away with murder.
>
> Much of the problem is that principals work unsupervised, and
> much of the problem is with many principals having union
> protection in many parts of the country.
>
> You can get kicked to the curb because an administrator failed
> to do his or her job while the administrator gets protected by
> being moved from job to job to job. In my old district, the
> principal didn't have to go by the negotiated agreement. I
> was treated like an "at-will" employee, not as somebody who
> was under contract. I was not told of my rights to file an
> EEOC complaint by my worthless "union" and its equally useless
> lawyer. Not only that, but the previous principal I had, who
> was demoted for sexual misconduct with a subordinate--a firing
> offense in most areas of the country and even a revocation
> offense--was this year moved BACK into being a site
> administrator with principal powers. Outrageous.
>
>
>
> On 9/18/14, C Davis wrote:
>> It does NOT take 2 years nor is it next to impossible to
>> get rid of an EXCEPTIONAL teacher on a continuing
>> contract.
>>
>> I know.
>>
>> You can do what they say and it still does not matter.
>> Teachers have no rights to defend themselves against
>> slander, lies, and undocumented accusations. You are
>> whatever they say you are.
>>
>> I have taught for 20 years (16 at the same school) and
>> these unethical practices are used to cover the butts of
>> inept administrators and students suffer the most, let's
>> not forget about them.
>>
>> It disgusts me what some people will do to ruin the career
>> of an honest, hard working, experienced, veteran of
>> ANYTHING.
>>
>> They have to surround themselves with ineptness, so they
>> don't look as bad as they truly are.
>>
>> Sadly, that is the state of education today and I have no
>> reason to believe it will get any better. I fear it will
>> be much worse and the impact it will have on society in
>> the future could be extremely damaging to our nation.
>>
>> But I am a believer and ALWAYS have hope for my future.
>>
>> On 7/11/14, PsyGuy wrote:
>>> This was a 4 month temporary position, not a annual
>> contract as
>>> governed by the TEC/TAC. Getting rid of a teacher ona
>> continuing
>>> contract is near impossible it takes a minimum of 2 years
>> to do so.
>>> Even on a probationary or term contract, teachers have
>> one of the
>>> strongest contract rights in the state. You can not be
>> called in on
>>> December 2nd in the middle of the term and have your
>> principal
>>> fire you, as could easily happen at say USAA or any other
>>> organization or company. Your pretty much guaranteed
>> that
>>> employment for a year (assuming nothing criminal).
>>>
>>> If your boss tells you to change a grade, change the
>>> grade.
>> If you
>>> worked at a bank and your supervisor told you to do
>> something
>>> why anyone would think they could say no to their
>> superior and
>>> keep their job baffles me.
>>>
>>> People are terminated for poor cultural fit int he
>>> workplace
>> all the
>>> time, and this idea that teachers get to be little rulers
>>> of
>> their
>>> classroom feeds that misperception. You work for the
>> district they
>>> tell you what to do, and you do it. Thats how "work" and
>>> professionals handle themselves. You dont have to agree
>> with it or
>>> like it, you just have to comply.
>>>
>>> Yes there are supervisors who are major jerks EVERY
>> industry and
>>> profession has them, grow a thicker skin, be on time,
>>> keep
>> the
>>> kids and the parents happy and collect your paycheck, its
>> called a
>>> job, for a reason.
>>>
>>> On 7/11/14, anon wrote:
>>>> On 7/10/14, mini wrote:
>>>>> I will be naming people and places . They hurt me from
>>>> having
>>>>> a job and making a living. I meant no ill will to
>>>>> anyone. Yet, I was a target on a 4 month contract???
>>>>> Why hurt my career? What did I do to you? Because for
>> 13
>>>> years
>>>>> I had great evaluations. I took a 4 month short
>>>>> contract
>>>> job.
>>>>> And I have been destroyed. I will name the district,
>> school
>>>>> and person that has done this to me. Just to warn other
>>>> people
>>>>> what can happen to you. Because it is so unfair my
>> career
>>>>> should end because of some 's petty hatred.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sadly, this goes on all over the United States. Just one
>>>> person, a principal, can literally destroy your life
>>>> over literally nothing. And here these dolts in the
>> privatization
>>>> movement, and even more than a few teachers, claim it
>> is
>>>> "impossible" to get rid of a teacher. It isn't.
>>>> Something as minor as refusing the change a grade under
>>>> a principal's direction in order to appease an angry
>>>> parent is enough
>> to
>>>> destroy a teacher's career.
>>>>
>>>> Even now, people think a teacher who was forced out or
>>>> "dismissed" "deserved" it, despite the reality that more
>> often
>>>> than not, a school district administrator is the one at
>> fault.
>>>> Unfortunately, school districts can and do rig it to
>>>> help their useless and insane principals and other
>> administrators
>>>> in order to keep the "good old boy network" intact.
>>>>
>>>> What's worse is school districts insist on having those
>>>> screening out questions that are designed weed you out
>> of
>>>> contention for a job. The question goes something like
>>>> if
>> you
>>>> have ever been non-renewed, forced to resign, resigned
>> in lieu
>>>> of a dismissal, or been dismissed, and, if "yes," you
>>>> have
>> to
>>>> give a date and a "detailed" explanation. As if anybody
>> on
>>>> the HR screening staff is even going to look beyond the
>> "yes."
>>>> Those questions need to be made against the law
>> because it is
>>>> a form of blackballing. Besides, school districts
>>>> already have the ability to look up licenses for license
>>>> sanctions
>> and
>>>> background checks for criminal issues. Just something
>> as
>>>> stupid as a personality conflict with a stupid principal
>>>> or
>> a
>>>> district violating FMLA or some other kind of issue
>> having
>>>> nothing to do with teaching or public safety should not
>> be
>>>> disqualifying. Those questions were put in years ago
>> when it
>>>> was unusual for a teacher to be forced out because
>> principals
>>>> simply didn't do it for reasons of classroom and school
>>>> morale. Only those teachers who really did deserve to be
>>>> forced out actually were. Now it's just any old reason
>>>> at
>> all
>>>> to cover principals' butts or save money on salaries and
>>>> pensions.
>>>>
>>>> School districts don't even have to have a principal
>>>> give
>> you
>>>> a lousy reference. All they have to do is label you a
>>>> "do
>> not
>>>> rehire," and that is typically all it takes to ruin a
>>>> teacher's job search. School districts have been sued
>> over
>>>> that designation of former employees.
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