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In my experience parents are the biggest issue facing
teachers. Its all about "their kid". No wonder these
students are such a me, me generation.

On 9/28/14, both are right wrote:
> It goes both ways. Parents often want the best for their
> kids but we can never suggest, correc,t or guide them in
> the right path if they don't do their part as students
and
> parents. It's all in day's work for nothing for most
> teachers.
>
> On 9/26/14, not here wrote:
>> They participate in cover-ups, gang up
>>> on parents in parent-teacher and ARD meetings, lie like
>>> there
> is
>>> no tomorrow, and look the other way when a child's
>>> education
> is
>>> damaged.
>>
>> About that statement, I don't know where you teach
>> because I don't see anything even close to what you are
>> describing. I feel sorry for the kids in the school you
>> are referencing. The teachers I know would never carry
on
>> like what you are
> describing.
>>
>>
>> On 9/25/14, EasTexSteve wrote:
>>> There are many long-time teachers like yourself who see
>>> just what you do. Yet, look at what they do. They stay
>>> silent about it, and do nothing, hoping that the cr@p
>>> doesn't roll downhill onto them. Teachers are the
people
>>> behind the schoolhouse doors. They are the people that
>>> see what goes on. They see
> who
>>> the culprits are, and they see them in action. And,
they
>>> are more familiar with the system than any average
>>> person. Yet, they say and do nothing. They participate
>>> in cover-ups, gang
> up
>>> on parents in parent-teacher and ARD meetings, lie like
>>> there
> is
>>> no tomorrow, and look the other way when a child's
>>> education
> is
>>> damaged. Then, when they are caught in the act of
> complacency,
>>> they feign ignorance. Then, when the whole charade
blows
> up,
>>> they can't wait to throw each other under the bus. I
>>> can't tell you how many depositions, administrative,
and
>>> civil actions
> I've
>>> been in where a teacher or administrator UNDER OATH got
> up on
>>> the witness stand and, with a straight face, just LIED
>>> until the cows came home, and everyone in the room knew
>>> they were
> lying,
>>> INCLUDING THE JUDGE!
>>>
>>> I'll admit that my involvement with school personnel
>>> only happens when there is a problem, and I often don't
>>> come in contact with all the really great teachers and
>>> administrators. However, I come in contact with enough
>>> of the worthless ones
> to
>>> know that there are plenty of them in every district in
>>> Texas. You say the system is often dysfunctional, and I
>>> agree. But, you really have no one to blame but
>>> yourselves because you
> are a
>>> big part of that same system.
>>>
>>> On 9/24/14, to EasTex Steve wrote:
>>>> I want to share my thoughts. I have been teaching for
a
>>>> long time. Our system is often times dysfunctional. I
>>>> have seen a lot of people in administrative roles who
>>>> don't know how to exercise real leadership. Instead,
>>>> they misuse their power. Every year it seems that some
>>>> poor teacher, who has been
> an
>>>> effective, caring teacher for years, ends up a
>>>> scapegoat for some egomaniac administrator who decides
>>>> to pick on them.
> For
>>>> these teachers there is little recourse. Teachers
watch
>>>> this and wonder if they are next. Eventually, these
>>>> teachers leave and go on to teach in another school
>>>> where they continue
> doing
>>>> a fine job.
>>>>
>>>> Like in any profession, there are inept individuals.
>>>> Those people don't last long. Teachers are too busy to
>>>> invest energy in defending bad teachers. That being
>>>> said, it is a sad day to see any teacher fail in a
>>>> classroom. I myself have quietly reported
incompetence,
>>>> and I know other teachers
> that
>>>> have stepped forward in this regard. In our current
day
>>>> teachers are the easy target of blame for every ill in
>>>> society. Now, you are blaming us for thinking society
>>>> owes
> us
>>>> something. You have to be kidding. The teachers I work
>>>> with every day are some of the most giving, generous
>>>> hearted, unassuming people I know. Stop the blame
game.
>>>> By the
> way,
>>>> we are some of the smartest people in the room--about
> people.
>>>> Teachers understand people. There is more to teaching
>>>> than book smarts.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 9/24/14, EasTexSteve wrote:
>>>>> I've been following this thread with some interest.
>>>>> I'm a student/parent/special ed advocate that is
>>>>> occasionally approached by teachers for assistance in
>>>>> dealing with wrongdoings against them by their
>>>>> district. I know you aren't going to like what I'm
>>>>> about to say, but it's the truth. And, that is, you
>>>>> ask for it. And, here are some ways you ask for it:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1) Not all teachers are created equal, and some of
>>>>> them really stink. They ruin students education, and
>>>>> they need to go. Yet, you all protect them with the
>>>>> attitude that all teachers are equally wonderful.
They
>>>>> aren't fooling anyone, and neither are you for
>>>>> protecting them. All you are doing is damaging your
>>>>> own reputation by protecting them.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2) You alienate the one group of people that can help
>>>>> you with your plight. That group is the PARENTS. It
>>>>> amazes me how many teachers I encounter who speak
>>>>> negatively
> about
>>>>> parents, even to the point of adopting a combative
>>>>> attitude toward them. Like it or not, Texas Education
>>>>> Code states clearly that parents will be treated as
>>>>> partners in the education of their children. Not
>>>>> adversaries, but PARTNERS. This is THE LAW. When you
>>>>> violate this partnership, you basically shoot
yourself
>>>>> in the foot. As teachers, you make up less than one
>>>>> tenth of the voting public. You can't do anything
>>>>> without the parents. You don't have to like them, you
>>>>> only have to be able to work with them to positively
>>>>> influence their child's education.
>>>>>
>>>>> 3) An incredible number of teachers I encounter have
>>>>> the attitude that just because they are teachers, the
>>>>> rest of society owes them something special. Well,
>>>>> they don't.
> GET
>>>>> OVER IT. This "holier than thou" attitude that some
of
>>>>> you have makes you look silly because believe me, if
>>>>> you actually look at the statistics as a whole, you
>>>>> would discover you are not the smartest people in the
>>>>> room. If you were, you wouldn't be having the
problems
>>>>> that you do. Respect is earned - not handed out on a
>>>>> diploma or certificate. If you want it, then earn it
>>>>> by showing that you hold yourself to a higher
>>>>> standard, put the students and parents first, and
stop
>>>>> throwing each other to the wolves.

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