Re: I was treated unfairly
    Posted by: anon on 9/20/14
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    It doesn't matter what state you live in, the situation is the
    same nationwide. Teachers are treated like garbage while
    administrators get away with murder.

    Much of the problem is that principals work unsupervised, and
    much of the problem is with many principals having union
    protection in many parts of the country.

    You can get kicked to the curb because an administrator failed
    to do his or her job while the administrator gets protected by
    being moved from job to job to job. In my old district, the
    principal didn't have to go by the negotiated agreement. I
    was treated like an "at-will" employee, not as somebody who
    was under contract. I was not told of my rights to file an
    EEOC complaint by my worthless "union" and its equally useless
    lawyer. Not only that, but the previous principal I had, who
    was demoted for sexual misconduct with a subordinate--a firing
    offense in most areas of the country and even a revocation
    offense--was this year moved BACK into being a site
    administrator with principal powers. Outrageous.

    On 9/18/14, C Davis wrote:
    > It does NOT take 2 years nor is it next to impossible to
    > get rid of an EXCEPTIONAL teacher on a continuing
    > contract.
    >
    > I know.
    >
    > You can do what they say and it still does not matter.
    > Teachers have no rights to defend themselves against
    > slander, lies, and undocumented accusations. You are
    > whatever they say you are.
    >
    > I have taught for 20 years (16 at the same school) and
    > these unethical practices are used to cover the butts of
    > inept administrators and students suffer the most, let's
    > not forget about them.
    >
    > It disgusts me what some people will do to ruin the career
    > of an honest, hard working, experienced, veteran of
    > ANYTHING.
    >
    > They have to surround themselves with ineptness, so they
    > don't look as bad as they truly are.
    >
    > Sadly, that is the state of education today and I have no
    > reason to believe it will get any better. I fear it will
    > be much worse and the impact it will have on society in
    > the future could be extremely damaging to our nation.
    >
    > But I am a believer and ALWAYS have hope for my future.
    >
    > On 7/11/14, PsyGuy wrote:
    >> This was a 4 month temporary position, not a annual
    > contract as
    >> governed by the TEC/TAC. Getting rid of a teacher ona
    > continuing
    >> contract is near impossible it takes a minimum of 2 years
    > to do so.
    >> Even on a probationary or term contract, teachers have
    > one of the
    >> strongest contract rights in the state. You can not be
    > called in on
    >> December 2nd in the middle of the term and have your
    > principal
    >> fire you, as could easily happen at say USAA or any other
    >> organization or company. Your pretty much guaranteed
    > that
    >> employment for a year (assuming nothing criminal).
    >>
    >> If your boss tells you to change a grade, change the
    >> grade.
    > If you
    >> worked at a bank and your supervisor told you to do
    > something
    >> why anyone would think they could say no to their
    > superior and
    >> keep their job baffles me.
    >>
    >> People are terminated for poor cultural fit int he
    >> workplace
    > all the
    >> time, and this idea that teachers get to be little rulers
    >> of
    > their
    >> classroom feeds that misperception. You work for the
    > district they
    >> tell you what to do, and you do it. Thats how "work" and
    >> professionals handle themselves. You dont have to agree
    > with it or
    >> like it, you just have to comply.
    >>
    >> Yes there are supervisors who are major jerks EVERY
    > industry and
    >> profession has them, grow a thicker skin, be on time,
    >> keep
    > the
    >> kids and the parents happy and collect your paycheck, its
    > called a
    >> job, for a reason.
    >>
    >> On 7/11/14, anon wrote:
    >>> On 7/10/14, mini wrote:
    >>>> I will be naming people and places . They hurt me from
    >>> having
    >>>> a job and making a living. I meant no ill will to
    >>>> anyone. Yet, I was a target on a 4 month contract???
    >>>> Why hurt my career? What did I do to you? Because for
    > 13
    >>> years
    >>>> I had great evaluations. I took a 4 month short
    >>>> contract
    >>> job.
    >>>> And I have been destroyed. I will name the district,
    > school
    >>>> and person that has done this to me. Just to warn other
    >>> people
    >>>> what can happen to you. Because it is so unfair my
    > career
    >>>> should end because of some 's petty hatred.
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> Sadly, this goes on all over the United States. Just one
    >>> person, a principal, can literally destroy your life
    >>> over literally nothing. And here these dolts in the
    > privatization
    >>> movement, and even more than a few teachers, claim it
    > is
    >>> "impossible" to get rid of a teacher. It isn't.
    >>> Something as minor as refusing the change a grade under
    >>> a principal's direction in order to appease an angry
    >>> parent is enough
    > to
    >>> destroy a teacher's career.
    >>>
    >>> Even now, people think a teacher who was forced out or
    >>> "dismissed" "deserved" it, despite the reality that more
    > often
    >>> than not, a school district administrator is the one at
    > fault.
    >>> Unfortunately, school districts can and do rig it to
    >>> help their useless and insane principals and other
    > administrators
    >>> in order to keep the "good old boy network" intact.
    >>>
    >>> What's worse is school districts insist on having those
    >>> screening out questions that are designed weed you out
    > of
    >>> contention for a job. The question goes something like
    >>> if
    > you
    >>> have ever been non-renewed, forced to resign, resigned
    > in lieu
    >>> of a dismissal, or been dismissed, and, if "yes," you
    >>> have
    > to
    >>> give a date and a "detailed" explanation. As if anybody
    > on
    >>> the HR screening staff is even going to look beyond the
    > "yes."
    >>> Those questions need to be made against the law
    > because it is
    >>> a form of blackballing. Besides, school districts
    >>> already have the ability to look up licenses for license
    >>> sanctions
    > and
    >>> background checks for criminal issues. Just something
    > as
    >>> stupid as a personality conflict with a stupid principal
    >>> or
    > a
    >>> district violating FMLA or some other kind of issue
    > having
    >>> nothing to do with teaching or public safety should not
    > be
    >>> disqualifying. Those questions were put in years ago
    > when it
    >>> was unusual for a teacher to be forced out because
    > principals
    >>> simply didn't do it for reasons of classroom and school
    >>> morale. Only those teachers who really did deserve to be
    >>> forced out actually were. Now it's just any old reason
    >>> at
    > all
    >>> to cover principals' butts or save money on salaries and
    >>> pensions.
    >>>
    >>> School districts don't even have to have a principal
    >>> give
    > you
    >>> a lousy reference. All they have to do is label you a
    >>> "do
    > not
    >>> rehire," and that is typically all it takes to ruin a
    >>> teacher's job search. School districts have been sued
    > over
    >>> that designation of former employees.


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