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I sincerely doubt you will read my comments, and if you do I
what no confidence you will consider what I say and answer with
any type direct response.

I am going to ask you one direct question -

What is the name of a public school or district in Texas that
uses the Common Core State Standards?

Can you answer that?

On 10/25/14, newsflash to muinteoir wrote:
> We get it. We get it. Common core is illegal in Texas, which
>is all the more reason that we should be fighting mad it is all
>over our schools.

Give me the name of a public school or district using CCSS. If
it is "all over" our schools, it shouldn't be hard to do.
You're anonymous, this is a non-registered, public chatboard -
spill the beans.

Until you provide some proof of what you say, your rantings are
meaningless to thinking people.

>Please don't write me back and inform me that CC is a set of
>standards and we have the TEKS, blah, blah, blah.

OK. No point in restating the obvious.

>Inform yourself. Read about the growing backlash against Common
>Core in Texas schools and ask yourself if all of those parents
are just mistaken or maybe there is something you don't get.

I have read about it. And yes, I think "all of those" parents
are mistaken.

1. I have yet to see any proof that CCSS is in any TX public
school. I know several private schools that use national
standards.

2. I have seen almost no concerns in my part of the state, so I
have no confidence that "all of those" is even a significant
number.

>The parents who are fighting this are extremely well read and
>informed on Common Core and they get that it is much bigger
>than a "set of standards."

I am also extremely well-read and informed, but I am not getting
the same information you and your compadres are getting. Please
point me to one credible, impartial source to support that CCSS
is in TX public schools.

I know there are large numbers of people that don't like
national standards, you don't have to tell me that. I disagree
with the premise; I do support national standards, but that is
not what I am am questioning.

I am asking you to name the public schools or districts in Texas
that are using CCSS. Can you do that?

>And newsflash, it is here in Texas. You owe it to
> yourself, if you are in education, to be well informed instead
>of sticking your head in the sand.

I am trying to be. I am trying to see both sides. Your side has
yet to provide any compelling evidence to support what you are
saying. If you want me to change my mind, or at least see you
side, give me a reason to. All I have is your (and I don't even
know who you are are) disgruntled comments on a chatboard.

Just to make sure I wasn't missing something new, I googled
"Texas opt out." I scrolled through three pages of opting out
of testing links. Nothing new there and nothing to support your
claim that CCSS is in Texas schools.

Then I googled "Texas opt put common core" and scrolled through
four pages of links. Again, nothing new and nothing to support
your assertions,

>Just look around from school to school and you will see the
>Common cult being imbedded. It is pretty hard to miss.

Where?????? Give me an actual example. My immediate (including
myself) family works/has worked in seven TX school districts in
the last few years. All big city or suburbs of big cities. Not
one of us has seen any evidence of CCSS or any national
standards.

Lots of TEKS. Lots of STAAR. Lots of oppressive district
mandated testing.
District mandated scope and sequences and pacing guides, no
prescribed curriculum or instructional methods. Even the
districts that used C-Scope didn't mandate the lessons, just the
scope and sequence. One district didn't even mandate that.

The ONLY school in my familial network that used national
standards is the elite, private, college prep school.

>
>
> On 10/25/14, muinteoir wrote:
>> Just FYI ----
>>
>> The Common Core State Standards are illegal in Texas.
>>
>> The 83rd Texas Legislature passed House Bill 462 (HB 462),
>> which contains several important prohibitions relating to
>> curriculum standards. The bill:
>>
>> 1. prohibits the State Board of Education (SBOE) from
>> adopting Common Core State Standards;
>>
>> 2. prohibits school districts from using Common Core State
>> Standards to meet the requirements to provide instruction in
>> the Texas Essential Knowledge and Skills (TEKS);
>>
>> 3. prohibits a school district or open enrollment charter
>> school from being required to offer the Common Core;
>>
>> 4. prohibits the Texas Education Agency from adopting or
>> developing assessments based on Common Core State Standards.
>>
>> www.legis.state.tx.us/tlodocs/83R/billtext/pdf/HB00462F.pdf#n
>> avpanes=0.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 10/25/14, jump in against the scamS wrote:
>>> Plenty of people told admins and teacher organizations that
>>> CSCOPE was a scam. They knew it. They brought it into the
>>> schools to build their own power. CSCOPE is just the twin
>>> sister of Common Core...and that is called Fed Led Ed. You
>>> don't like having the feds control every breath you take
>> but
>>> yet most teachers can't run to the polls fast enough to
>> pull
>>> the lever for the very candidates that TFT and other orgs
>> are
>>> pushing at us. In the end, the administrators who are now
>>> being used as patsies to set up a system where our schools
>> are
>>> sold out...they are going to suffer the same fate as the
>>> teachers. They will be useless within the new system where
>>> administrators are already being trained to takeover
>> schools.
>>>
>>> Since you are retired I have a suggestion to make. Share
>> your
>>> knowledge and experience to join into the growing political
>>> backlash against Common Core in Texas schools. I see
>> teachers
>>> who are "retiring" (getting so burnt out that they pack up
>> and
>>> leave) and they allow the system to beat them up.
>> Experienced
>>> teachers, such as yourself, who know how the classroom is
>>> supposed to run when teachers have autonomy are needed in
>> the
>>> behind-the-scenes pushback movement. Do a search for Texas
>> Opt
>>> Out and you will read about the brewing firestorm. Jump in.
>>> We need you because you are honest and willing to speak
>> out.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10/24/14, shill wrote:
>>>> I DO agree that C-Scope really WASN'T for MY classroom,
>> but
>>>> I could tell THAT after USING it the first year without
>>>> anyone having to inform me on some chat board. In fact,
>>>> that's EXACTLY why I quit using it! It wasn't fit for ANY
>>>> classroom as far as I am concerned. However I wish someone
>>>> had told ADMINISTRATION that when C-Scope leased their
>>>> product to them and subsequently when admin forced it down
>>>> all of the teachers' throats. Also, I don't remember
>> saying
>>>> that my students and district were so wonderful. Some
>>>> students were, some weren't, probably like most districts.
>> I
>>>> DO know that districts want higher test scores and that
>> many
>>>> of them will glom onto anything that they think will help
>>>> them get them....including scams like C-Scope. If I was
>>>> doing something wrong, then it was the responsibility of
>>>> administration to tell me exactly WHAT that was, and maybe
>> I
>>>> could have corrected it. I repeat, C-Scope = scam.

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