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As long as you pay state minimum, a district can and does pay
more for harder to fill and in demand positions in the form of
stipends, and there is nothing preventing a district from
offering state minimum and then adding another $10,000 or
$20,000 or even more for a Sp.Ed, math, science, etc. position.

On 5/19/15, anon wrote:
> The bottom line, so to speak, is you cannot pay math and
> science teachers or special education teachers more than
> those in other subject areas in public ed. These jobs aren't
> more difficult to do than say kindergarten, a job that
> requires a tremendous amount of prep time and one of the
> reasons teachers more often than not have assistants in the
> classroom. Supply and demand ideas just don't apply in these
> types of jobs.
>
> Current teachers can always get endorsements in hard to fill
> areas, and many of them actually have the endorsements like
> special ed but go into a regular classroom.
>
>
> On 5/18/15, Dave wrote:
>> Thats not true substitutes can be paid anything the
>> district feels they are worth whether they are certified or
>> not. Its CONTRACT employees who must be offered the same
>> salary scale, and even then the only requirement is that
>> districts and schools offer the state minimum, and that
>> classes of teachers be treated equally. This is why Sp.Ed
>> and math/science teachers have been offered stipends in the
>> past, and nothing would prohibit a district from paying an
>> art teacher or P.E. teacher the state minimum and a math
>> teacher the state minimum, plus a $20K stipend. As long as
>> all Math teachers were offered the same stipend it would be
>> legal.
>>
>> Bonuses arent illegal, but I only know one district (and
>> its a Charter) that gives large payout bonuses.
>>
>> On 5/16/15, Payscale differ wrote:
>>> Payscales vary for subs and long-term subs in different
>>> districts. But teachers who ARE certified have to be paid
>>> the same level -, no matter what district / position
>>> you're in per Texas law. Schools with difficulties in
>>> filling hard to fill positions most likely will hire
>>> uncertified and not-yet certified teachers as short and
>>> long-term (year-long) with a promise of large sum payoff
>>> at end of contract as if they're certified teachers. This
>>> is a way of keeping contracts 'money attractive' to
>>> applicants instead of searching and paying already
>>> certfified teachers $40K annually at year zero.
>>>
>>> On 5/14/15, anon wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Rules about supply and demand do NOT apply in public
>>> employment
>>>> because they are non-profits.
>>>>
>>>> It would be highly unfair to pay somebody more money
>>> because
>>>> they are math or science teachers than kindergarten,
>>>> which is a LOT harder work and which helps lay the
>>>> groundwork for future academic success.
>>>>
>>>> The ONLY fair compensation in the public sector is in
>> the
>>>> step system.
>>>>
>>>> Your post is idiotic on its face.
>>>>
>>>> On 5/13/15, 27K No Way! wrote:
>>>>> There is a shortage of teachers in some fields that are
>>>>> willing to work for low teacher pay, like Spanish
>>>>> speaking ELL, STEM, sped... the list is pretty well
>>>>> known and it is similar around the country. These
>>>>> "shortages" would be cleared up if they raised the pay
>>>>> for these fields.
>>>>>
>>>>> Texas doesn't have collective bargaining for teachers,
>>>>> but it still makes the same mistake collective
>>>>> bargaining states make in simply having one salary for
>>>>> all teachers. Yes, some of it is based upon
>> performance,
>>>>> but there is no recognition of the fact that there are
>>>>> sub-sets of teachers that have a very different labor
>>>>> market. There is simply a lack of intelligence when it
>>>>> comes to understanding supply and demand. A
>>>>> Spanish-speaking, HS Math teacher has a lot of other
>>>>> career options than a regular old elementary teacher.
>>>>> Not to say the elem teacher doesn't work hard, but hard
>>>>> work is not (typically) what results in higher pay in a
>>>>> free market...
>>>>>
>>>>> If the supply of teachers outstrips demand for their
>>>>> labor, then you must increase the supply by attracting
>>>>> more people into the field on a macro-level. That
>>>>> Spanish-speaking Math teacher, who has other options
>> in,
>>>>> say: IT or engineering, might then be attracted to the
>>>>> field. The general ed elementary teacher... probably
>>>>> doesn't have that skill set and therefore their labor
>> is
>>>>> not as scarce.
>>>>>
>>>>> On a micro-level, an individual district should
>> increase
>>>>> it's pay for the type of teacher that is in short
>> supply
>>>>> to attract what supply of labor does exist. A district
>>>>> superintendent at one ISD probably can't affect change
>>>>> that will bring more Math or Sped teachers into the
>>>>> overall labor pool, but they can pay more to attract
>> the
>>>>> scarce labor to their classrooms. The problem is that
>>>>> they don't think about teachers in sub-sets. They think
>>>>> think they need to pay a "shortage" area teacher the
>>>>> same as a non-shortage area teacher, which makes pay
>>>>> increases insufficient to attract people in the
>> shortage
>>>>> fields. You don't need to pay a gym teacher more...,
>>>>> there are already a hundred applicants for every
>>>>> position, but you might need to pay a STEM or sped
>>>>> teacher more because those classrooms could go
>> unfilled.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regardless: I wouldn't teach any subject for 27K per
>>>>> year.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 5/01/15, PsyGuy wrote:
>>>>>> The presentation that there is a shortage of teachers
>>>>>> is a myth, there are a lot of teachers that will
>> accept
>>>>>> any job that pays more than substituting (which at $80
>>>>>> a day for 150 days is $12,000).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 4/24/15, 27k BS wrote:
>>>>>>> 27K is garbage pay and you'll attract garbage
>> teachers
>>>>>>> at that salary... if that. You could make more in a
>>>>>>> call center or cubical farm without the BS involved
>>>>>>> with teaching.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 4/21/15, PsyGuy wrote:
>>>>>>>> Well yes and no. It is likely that your
>>>>>>>> district/school is adapting the state minimum salary
>>>>>>>> schedule which is $27,540 for step 0, however the
>>>>>>>> salary schedule does increase on average about $500
>>>>>>>> per year of experience. You can find the state
>>>>>>>> minimum salary schedule here:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>> tea.texas.gov/Texas_Educators/Salary_and_Service_Record/M
>>>>>>>> inimum _Salary_Schedule/2014-
>>> 2015_Minimum_Salary_Schedule/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Anything more than that is whats referred to as
>>>>>>>> "local supplemental" salary, which your district can
>>>>>>>> change or eliminate entirely.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As to why, there could be a number of reasons.
>> First,
>>>>>>>> is to incentivise teachers to retire or resign,
>>>>>>>> without going through long and expensive grievance
>>>>>>>> procedures. Second, is if your district is
>>>>>>>> implementing a "pay for performance" or "bonus"
>>>>>>>> salary program. You get the
>>>>>> state
>>>>>>>> minimum and depending on your student pass
>>>>>> (satisfactory)
>>>>>>>> and commended (advanced) numbers you get bonus pay,
>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>> may or may not exceed your conventional salary.
>>>>>>>> Third, your district may be experiencing a financial
>>>>>>>> or budgetary crises, perhaps they are anticipating a
>>>>>>>> loss
>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>> federal funding, etc. There could be a number of
>>>>>>>> other reasons.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 4/18/15, Aeiou wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Can someone explain this? Does this apply to all
>>>>>> current
>>>>>>>>> employed teachers? What are they doing to do? Drop
>>> my
>>>>>>>>> pay to 27,000 after I made 40,000 a year? That is
>> BS
>>>>>>>>> if so.....

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