Re: Student Recommendations
    Posted by: from my 2 again on 1/12/15
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    When I taught in a community college I had students who were
    entitled to accomodations but that meant they provided them.
    In other words, they could have a notetaker with them but that
    person was not provided by the community college. They can
    have some accomodations but as the instructor I played little
    role in providing those. I dont' remember much by way of
    modifications unless the person was sight or hearing impaired.

    On 1/12/15, My 2 cents is right wrote:
    > Sticky situation. Would it be possible to suggest student
    > would likely need to apply for student services
    > (disabilities office) to assist with academic needs?
    > Colleges & universities are prohibted by law that they are
    > disallowed to suggest/offer DA services to struggling
    > students. Students, after age 18, have to advocate for
    > theirselves on their own.
    >
    > Most professors will NOT be sympathetic toward below level
    > students. They feel you should be ready to go with little
    > assistance from DA office. This would not be considered
    > lying but merely stating this student have had academic
    > struggles and needed (services).
    >
    > On 1/11/15, Curious wrote:
    >> On 1/11/15, please explain wrote:
    >>> I am confused about why anyone would mix up being on an
    >> ARD
    >>> committee with being asked to give a recommendation to a
    >> private
    >>> school? When a family approaches a private school, and I
    > know
    >>> this because I have investigated many private schools
    >>> for my child, most private schools provide a application
    >>> packet which includes a recommendation form to be filled
    >>> out by the
    >> teachers
    >>> of major courses. The parent then passes these out to
    >>> the current teachers. It is likely that the parents want
    >>> a particular teacher to follow through with sending it
    >>> in because the parents perceive that teacher to have a
    >>> positive relationship with the student and they foresee
    >>> that teacher making positive comments. The
    >>> recommendation form
    >> specifically
    >>> asks that it be sent to the private school directly. As
    >>> a teacher in public, I have filled out many of these
    >>> forms and I was truthful. I sent it in a sealed envelope
    >>> to the school. This has nothing to do with legal
    >>> obligations as an ARD
    >> member.
    >>> The recommendation forms that I have filled out merely
    >>> ask if the student receives any special services: yes or
    >>> no. Those forms do not ask for any delicate information.
    >>> Please explain why being on an ARD committee or not
    >>> being on one would
    >> matter
    >>> in this case.
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> On 1/10/15, my 2 wrote:
    >>>> A recommendation for private school goes in a sealed
    >> envelope,
    >>>> mailed by the teacher, to the private school. At that
    >>>> point, it is not revealed to the parents. I don't get
    >>>> what the issue is. A person can refuse to give a
    >>>> recommendation. The private school will use other items
    >>>> such as test scores on tests that they give, and in my
    >>>> son's case, an interview that was extensive. I would
    >>>> not worry that the school will accept this student.
    >>>> There is one caveat. If the private school wants to
    >>>> accept this student because they want the parents'
    >>>> money, then they will do so no matter what the
    >> recommendation
    >>>> says anyway, which might be the case. If that is the
    >>>> case, so what?
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> On 1/10/15, Curious wrote:
    >>>>> A person in my department is being pressured by the
    >> family
    >>>> of a SpEd student
    >>>>> to give a recommendation for an elite professional
    >>>>> school.
    >>>> This student has
    >>>>> been provided with an enormous amount of support and
    >> her
    >>>> IEP's water down
    >>>>> even some of the basic skills and principles of the
    >>>>> classes
    >>>> involved. Sadly, the
    >>>>> administration is terrified of the parents because one
    >>>>> is a
    >>>> well connected
    >>>>> lawyer.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> This student, who I have also had in class, has a low
    >>>>> IQ, is
    >>>> limited in every
    >>>>> aspect of reading, writing and speaking. In addition
    >>>>> the
    >>>> student has other
    >>>>> disorders which her parents have taken pains to avoid
    >>>> revealing to the student
    >>>>> who is now nearly 18. The parents have basically
    >> demanded
    >>>> every kind of
    >>>>> implementation available, to the point of even
    >>>>> threatening
    >>>> standardized
    >>>>> testing organizations if they don't allow the student
    >>>>> to
    >>>> exercise all of the IEP
    >>>>> demands that include extended time, access to
    >>>>> dictionary
    >> and
    >>>> more. They
    >>>>> didn't ask me for a recommendation because I was very
    >>>> straightforward about
    >>>>> this student's abilities. The teacher in my department
    >>>>> is a
    >>>> very sweet lady who
    >>>>> is dealing with a number of personal issues and the
    >>>>> family
    >>>> and administration
    >>>>> are using this opportunity to bully her into a
    >>>> recommendation. So LEGALLY,
    >>>>> can the administration force the teacher to do this?
    >>
    >> We are talking about a college level education facility,
    >> not a private training school. As for the ARD committee,
    >> this is not being driven by the ARD committee, but by the
    >> parents and by the administration in an attempt to
    >> placate them. They want the teacher to assure the college
    >> that the student is capable of
    > doing
    >> the work, which the student is not. We have had students
    >> at the college before and are well aware of the
    >> expectations. Having had the student previously, I know
    >> that the parents believe the student is capable of
    >> regular ed work. They are asking the teacher to lie.


    Posts on this thread, including this one

  • Student Recommendations, 1/10/15, by Curious.
  • Re: Student Recommendations, 1/10/15, by my 2.
  • Re: Student Recommendations, 1/11/15, by EasTexSteve.
  • Re: Student Recommendations, 1/11/15, by Agreed East Tx Steve.
  • Re: Student Recommendations, 1/11/15, by please explain.
  • Re: Student Recommendations, 1/11/15, by Curious.
  • Re: Student Recommendations, 1/11/15, by Learntoread.
  • Re: Student Recommendations, 1/12/15, by My 2 cents is right.
  • Re: Student Recommendations, 1/12/15, by from my 2 again.
  • Re: Student Recommendations, 2/03/15, by PsyGuy.
  • Re: Student Recommendations, 2/03/15, by PsyGuy.
  • Re: Student Recommendations, 2/03/15, by PsyGuy.
  • Re: Student Recommendations, 2/03/15, by PsyGuy.
  • Re: Student Recommendations, 2/03/15, by PsyGuy.