Re: Student Recommendations
    Posted by: PsyGuy on 2/03/15
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    The main issue is that while colleges/universities will comply with
    ADA requirements they will not provide anything close to what a
    public K-12 school would be required to provide as part of a free and
    appropriate education. Ive see university disability services files with
    3 page IEP's and all the student got at the university was more time
    to complete examinations, or a larger type/print test. The most
    expensive accommodation a student is likely to get is an ASL
    interpreter.
    Professors will not hand hold a student.

    On 1/11/15, Curious wrote:
    > On 1/11/15, please explain wrote:
    >> I am confused about why anyone would mix up being on an
    > ARD
    >> committee with being asked to give a recommendation to a
    > private
    >> school? When a family approaches a private school, and I know
    >> this because I have investigated many private schools for my
    >> child, most private schools provide a application packet which
    >> includes a recommendation form to be filled out by the
    > teachers
    >> of major courses. The parent then passes these out to the
    >> current teachers. It is likely that the parents want a
    >> particular teacher to follow through with sending it in because
    >> the parents perceive that teacher to have a positive
    >> relationship with the student and they foresee that teacher
    >> making positive comments. The recommendation form
    > specifically
    >> asks that it be sent to the private school directly. As a
    >> teacher in public, I have filled out many of these forms and I
    >> was truthful. I sent it in a sealed envelope to the school.
    >> This has nothing to do with legal obligations as an ARD
    > member.
    >> The recommendation forms that I have filled out merely ask if
    >> the student receives any special services: yes or no. Those
    >> forms do not ask for any delicate information. Please explain
    >> why being on an ARD committee or not being on one would
    > matter
    >> in this case.
    >>
    >>
    >> On 1/10/15, my 2 wrote:
    >>> A recommendation for private school goes in a sealed
    > envelope,
    >>> mailed by the teacher, to the private school. At that point,
    >>> it is not revealed to the parents. I don't get what the issue
    >>> is. A person can refuse to give a recommendation. The
    >>> private school will use other items such as test scores on
    >>> tests that they give, and in my son's case, an interview that
    >>> was extensive. I would not worry that the school will accept
    >>> this student. There is one caveat. If the private school
    >>> wants to accept this student because they want the parents'
    >>> money, then they will do so no matter what the
    > recommendation
    >>> says anyway, which might be the case. If that is the case, so
    >>> what?
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> On 1/10/15, Curious wrote:
    >>>> A person in my department is being pressured by the
    > family
    >>> of a SpEd student
    >>>> to give a recommendation for an elite professional school.
    >>> This student has
    >>>> been provided with an enormous amount of support and
    > her
    >>> IEP's water down
    >>>> even some of the basic skills and principles of the classes
    >>> involved. Sadly, the
    >>>> administration is terrified of the parents because one is a
    >>> well connected
    >>>> lawyer.
    >>>>
    >>>> This student, who I have also had in class, has a low IQ, is
    >>> limited in every
    >>>> aspect of reading, writing and speaking. In addition the
    >>> student has other
    >>>> disorders which her parents have taken pains to avoid
    >>> revealing to the student
    >>>> who is now nearly 18. The parents have basically
    > demanded
    >>> every kind of
    >>>> implementation available, to the point of even threatening
    >>> standardized
    >>>> testing organizations if they don't allow the student to
    >>> exercise all of the IEP
    >>>> demands that include extended time, access to dictionary
    > and
    >>> more. They
    >>>> didn't ask me for a recommendation because I was very
    >>> straightforward about
    >>>> this student's abilities. The teacher in my department is a
    >>> very sweet lady who
    >>>> is dealing with a number of personal issues and the family
    >>> and administration
    >>>> are using this opportunity to bully her into a
    >>> recommendation. So LEGALLY,
    >>>> can the administration force the teacher to do this?
    >
    > We are talking about a college level education facility, not a
    > private training school. As for the ARD committee, this is not
    > being driven by the ARD committee, but by the parents and by
    > the administration in an attempt to placate them. They want the
    > teacher to assure the college that the student is capable of doing
    > the work, which the student is not. We have had students at the
    > college before and are well aware of the expectations. Having
    > had the student previously, I know that the parents believe the
    > student is capable of regular ed work. They are asking the
    > teacher to lie.


    Posts on this thread, including this one

  • Student Recommendations, 1/10/15, by Curious.
  • Re: Student Recommendations, 1/10/15, by my 2.
  • Re: Student Recommendations, 1/11/15, by EasTexSteve.
  • Re: Student Recommendations, 1/11/15, by Agreed East Tx Steve.
  • Re: Student Recommendations, 1/11/15, by please explain.
  • Re: Student Recommendations, 1/11/15, by Curious.
  • Re: Student Recommendations, 1/11/15, by Learntoread.
  • Re: Student Recommendations, 1/12/15, by My 2 cents is right.
  • Re: Student Recommendations, 1/12/15, by from my 2 again.
  • Re: Student Recommendations, 2/03/15, by PsyGuy.
  • Re: Student Recommendations, 2/03/15, by PsyGuy.
  • Re: Student Recommendations, 2/03/15, by PsyGuy.
  • Re: Student Recommendations, 2/03/15, by PsyGuy.
  • Re: Student Recommendations, 2/03/15, by PsyGuy.