Re: Prison Schools
    Posted by: Considering on 1/07/15
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    On 1/07/15, EasTexSteve wrote:
    > Though I don't teach in "prison" schools, my wife works for
    > Texas Juvenile Justice Department, and I have spent time in
    > many of the units.
    >
    > To start with, you will be dealing with the worst of the
    > worst. The special ed population of TJJD is about 46 percent.
    > (It's no secret what we do with our mentally challenged
    people
    > these days. We send them to jail.) However, even though many
    > of them are quite nasty, you will also find out that many of
    > these are students that public school has failed miserably to
    > serve, and that's why they are where they are.
    >
    > TJJD incarcerates only the serious offenders who have
    > committed violent crimes. They stopped taking drug offenders
    > and other lesser crimes about a year or so ago. These are not
    > nice kids. There are very strict rules regarding how you
    > conduct yourself in the units.
    >
    > Under the law, TJJD is itself a school district, even though
    > there are 5 to 6 units scattered around the state. They are a
    > year round school. Texas Education Code applies to them,
    > unless the code says otherwise.
    >
    > The benefits are better than TRS since they are on the ERS
    > state retirement and insurance system. If you decide to work
    > for them, your TRS account will transfer over. The pay rate
    > per day is usually in line with the highest paid local school
    > district. They pay into both ERS and Social Security.
    >
    > You won't be taking home any work. Every unit I have seen
    > does not let the education staff take any work home. They
    > also don't work any overtime. They are on the job at 7:15,
    > and when 4:15 comes, it's quitting time. They punch out for
    > lunch. Most education employees leave the premises for lunch.
    >
    > There is always friction between the corrections staff, and
    > the education staff in every unit I've been to. I think it
    > stems from education being paid more, and also because
    > corrections are hourly employees. Almost anybody can get a
    > job as a corrections officer.
    >
    > By far, the best teachers I have ever encountered work for
    > TJJD. But, they also have plenty of losers just biding time
    > until they can cash in on that state retirement. They WILL
    > NOT hire inexperienced teachers.

    Thanks for the information, EastTxSteve. The one I am applying
    for is the Windham School District, which, as you probably
    know, is for adult prisons across the state.

    Also, can you explain a little more about the ERS retirement
    and insurance plans. On a tangent, I mentioned it earlier, but
    may not have explained it very well. When I started my own
    business, I withdrew my contributions from TRS to finance it.
    So what I was wondering is how long would it take to be vested
    in ERS so as to draw a pension upon full retirement (I don't
    have the "magic 80" number yet! LOL). Thanks!


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  • Prison Schools, 1/07/15, by Considering .
  • Re: Prison Schools, 1/07/15, by EasTexSteve.
  • Re: Prison Schools, 1/07/15, by Considering.
  • Re: Prison Schools, 1/16/15, by sweet potato of Huntsville.
  • Re: Prison Schools, 1/29/15, by Considering.
  • Re: Prison Schools, 2/03/15, by PsyGuy.
  • Re: Prison Schools, 3/20/15, by Considering.