Re: Prison Schools
    Posted by: Considering on 3/20/15
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    Thanks PsyGuy. Good info!

    On 2/03/15, PsyGuy wrote:
    > TJJD (Texas Juvenile Justice Department) laughed, actually
    > laughed when C-SCOPE/TRS wanted to pitch the product to
    > them, they were the only one. Ive only visited but from my
    > limited experience:
    >
    > 1) Its very organized and controlled, you dont have to stand
    in a
    > hall and watch students at the lockers or anything. The
    students
    > are for the most part well behaved. This is an opportunity
    for
    > them to get out of their enclosures (cells) and do something.
    A
    > lot of them really do want to to make changes.
    >
    > 2) The problem is a lot of them are truly socio paths, these
    are
    > not nice kids while a fair number of them have remorse, for
    > truly the worst offenses we have (murder, rape, etc), a lot
    of
    > them know the system and their mistakes will just make them
    > better predators later, when they are released. These
    students
    > are VERY good at playing the victim of society, they will
    > manipulate you if they can. The smallest breach of policy or
    > protocol they will use as leverage to extort or blackmail
    you,
    > simple things, like "can you call my mother when you get home
    > and tell her Im okay, i lost my phone privileges for getting
    beat
    > up". You make the call and the next day or a few days later
    the
    > same kid will come to you after class and say 'You broke the
    > rules and if you dont do me a favor Ill report you and my
    > girlfriend (who you really called) will back me up." These
    kids
    > are the dangerous ones, the real dangerous ones they make
    > slasher movies about.
    >
    > 3) The money is very good considering its a clock in and
    clock
    > out job, you never take anything home (every assignment and
    > scrap of paper stays in the facility, no communication that
    isnt
    > monitored goes in or comes out). There are no meetings or
    > extra curricular programs. They dont use TRS though they use
    > ERS which is the State "Employee" retirement system, it takes
    > twice as long to get vested (10 years) but the benefits more
    > stable, still its not as good as ORP.
    >
    > 4) Some of the corrections officers are borderline criminals
    > themselves. the older ones (with the grey hair) tend to be
    the
    > best, they have a lot invested and its a job to them, they
    have to
    > much to risk. The younger ones seem to just barely be on this
    > side of the law, when there is a scandal or a security breach
    its
    > usually a younger CO (corrections officer) thats the problem.
    > There is a reason why male COs have almost no contact or have
    > dual patrol with female COs when handling female inmates. As
    > a teacher there will always be at LEAST 2 COs in proximity to
    > your classroom and its not surprising to have a student in
    leg
    > restraints (so that they cant rush you or anyone else) nor a
    CO
    > in the back of your classroom.
    >
    > 5) The sup is the best, you will be supported as long as you
    > follow procedures and rules. If a student is problematic you
    > wont see them again. Texas has very little sympathy for these
    > kids, and they really are beyond their last chance. You wont
    get
    > cheated, taken advantage of or anything. Come in do your
    > lesson, do your job go home and you will NEVER have a
    > problem.
    >
    > On 1/07/15, Considering wrote:
    >>
    >> I was a public school teacher for some 15 years but resigned
    >> in order to start my own business. Now that the business
    >> is running fairly well and my wife can handle it, I am
    >> considering getting back into the profession. However,
    >> I really don't want to go back to the public school setting
    >> and am seriously considering applying at a prison school.
    >>
    >> Does any of you out there have any experience working in
    > one
    >> and, if so, can y'all share any information on what it is
    >> like to work in this environment/classroom. No detail is too
    >> small, so elaborate as much as you like! LOL
    >>
    >> As I side question, I withdrew my contributions to Texas TRS
    >> to start the business I mentioned, so was wondering how
    >> long to takes when starting fresh to become "re-vested" in
    >> the retirement system and get a yearly pension upon
    >> retirement for good?
    >>
    >> Thanks in advance for any assistance/answers!


    Posts on this thread, including this one

  • Prison Schools, 1/07/15, by Considering .
  • Re: Prison Schools, 1/07/15, by EasTexSteve.
  • Re: Prison Schools, 1/07/15, by Considering.
  • Re: Prison Schools, 1/16/15, by sweet potato of Huntsville.
  • Re: Prison Schools, 1/29/15, by Considering.
  • Re: Prison Schools, 2/03/15, by PsyGuy.
  • Re: Prison Schools, 3/20/15, by Considering.