Re: re: C-Scope, What a Scam!
    Posted by: 1administrator on 10/27/14
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    Just attended a workshop in our high school. All of the materials used
    and passed out was clearly labeled Common Core! By the way, I am a
    former administrator, just have not changed my name on here!

    On 10/26/14, answer wrote:
    > Katy ISD, Eanes ISD where an administrator told a parent they were in
    > the process of correlating the TEKS with Common Core standards,
    Keller
    > ISD where teachers are using Common Core math books, Decatur ISD, and
    > that's not even the charter schools which are public schools that
    make
    > no attempt to hide it....should I go on? Just because you are singing
    > the propaganda that we use the TEKS and not the CC standards does not
    > mask the fact that parents are getting angrier and angrier in
    > districts across Texas. Of course I will answer your question. You
    > might just be the only person left in Texas that claims we don't have
    > Common Core with a straight face, and it is fun to let you in on the
    > little secret. All kidding aside, I will never understand why people
    > who teach every day don't read and research at even a basic level how
    > our schools are being transformed and the money behind the buyout.
    >
    >
    > On 10/26/14, muinteoir wrote:
    >> I sincerely doubt you will read my comments, and if you do I
    >> what no confidence you will consider what I say and answer with
    >> any type direct response.
    >>
    >> I am going to ask you one direct question -
    >>
    >> What is the name of a public school or district in Texas that
    >> uses the Common Core State Standards?
    >>
    >> Can you answer that?
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> On 10/25/14, newsflash to muinteoir wrote:
    >>> We get it. We get it. Common core is illegal in Texas, which
    >>>is all the more reason that we should be fighting mad it is all
    >>>over our schools.
    >>
    >>
    >> Give me the name of a public school or district using CCSS. If
    >> it is "all over" our schools, it shouldn't be hard to do.
    >> You're anonymous, this is a non-registered, public chatboard -
    >> spill the beans.
    >>
    >> Until you provide some proof of what you say, your rantings are
    >> meaningless to thinking people.
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>>Please don't write me back and inform me that CC is a set of
    >>>standards and we have the TEKS, blah, blah, blah.
    >>
    >> OK. No point in restating the obvious.
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>>Inform yourself. Read about the growing backlash against Common
    >>>Core in Texas schools and ask yourself if all of those parents
    >> are just mistaken or maybe there is something you don't get.
    >>
    >>
    >> I have read about it. And yes, I think "all of those" parents
    >> are mistaken.
    >>
    >> 1. I have yet to see any proof that CCSS is in any TX public
    >> school. I know several private schools that use national
    >> standards.
    >>
    >> 2. I have seen almost no concerns in my part of the state, so I
    >> have no confidence that "all of those" is even a significant
    >> number.
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>>The parents who are fighting this are extremely well read and
    >>>informed on Common Core and they get that it is much bigger
    >>>than a "set of standards."
    >>
    >>
    >> I am also extremely well-read and informed, but I am not getting
    >> the same information you and your compadres are getting. Please
    >> point me to one credible, impartial source to support that CCSS
    >> is in TX public schools.
    >>
    >> I know there are large numbers of people that don't like
    >> national standards, you don't have to tell me that. I disagree
    >> with the premise; I do support national standards, but that is
    >> not what I am am questioning.
    >>
    >> I am asking you to name the public schools or districts in Texas
    >> that are using CCSS. Can you do that?
    >>
    >>
    >>>And newsflash, it is here in Texas. You owe it to
    >>> yourself, if you are in education, to be well informed instead
    >>>of sticking your head in the sand.
    >>
    >> I am trying to be. I am trying to see both sides. Your side has
    >> yet to provide any compelling evidence to support what you are
    >> saying. If you want me to change my mind, or at least see you
    >> side, give me a reason to. All I have is your (and I don't even
    >> know who you are are) disgruntled comments on a chatboard.
    >>
    >>
    >> Just to make sure I wasn't missing something new, I googled
    >> "Texas opt out." I scrolled through three pages of opting out
    >> of testing links. Nothing new there and nothing to support your
    >> claim that CCSS is in Texas schools.
    >>
    >> Then I googled "Texas opt put common core" and scrolled through
    >> four pages of links. Again, nothing new and nothing to support
    >> your assertions,
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>>Just look around from school to school and you will see the
    >>>Common cult being imbedded. It is pretty hard to miss.
    >>
    >> Where?????? Give me an actual example. My immediate (including
    >> myself) family works/has worked in seven TX school districts in
    >> the last few years. All big city or suburbs of big cities. Not
    >> one of us has seen any evidence of CCSS or any national
    >> standards.
    >>
    >> Lots of TEKS. Lots of STAAR. Lots of oppressive district
    >> mandated
    testing.
    >> District mandated scope and sequences and pacing guides, no
    >> prescribed curriculum or instructional methods. Even the
    >> districts that used C-Scope didn't mandate the lessons, just the
    >> scope and sequence. One district didn't even mandate that.
    >>
    >> The ONLY school in my familial network that used national
    >> standards is the elite, private, college prep school.
    >>
    >>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> On 10/25/14, muinteoir wrote:
    >>>> Just FYI ----
    >>>>
    >>>> The Common Core State Standards are illegal in Texas.
    >>>>
    >>>> The 83rd Texas Legislature passed House Bill 462 (HB 462),
    >>>> which contains several important prohibitions relating to
    >>>> curriculum standards. The bill:
    >>>>
    >>>> 1. prohibits the State Board of Education (SBOE) from
    >>>> adopting Common Core State Standards;
    >>>>
    >>>> 2. prohibits school districts from using Common Core State
    >>>> Standards to meet the requirements to provide instruction in
    >>>> the Texas Essential Knowledge and Skills (TEKS);
    >>>>
    >>>> 3. prohibits a school district or open enrollment charter
    >>>> school from being required to offer the Common Core;
    >>>>
    >>>> 4. prohibits the Texas Education Agency from adopting or
    >>>> developing assessments based on Common Core State Standards.
    >>>>
    >>>> www.legis.state.tx.us/tlodocs/83R/billtext/pdf/HB00462F.pdf#n
    >>>> avpanes=0.
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> On 10/25/14, jump in against the scamS wrote:
    >>>>> Plenty of people told admins and teacher organizations that
    >>>>> CSCOPE was a scam. They knew it. They brought it into the
    >>>>> schools to build their own power. CSCOPE is just the twin
    >>>>> sister of Common Core...and that is called Fed Led Ed. You
    >>>>> don't like having the feds control every breath you take
    >>>> but
    >>>>> yet most teachers can't run to the polls fast enough to
    >>>> pull
    >>>>> the lever for the very candidates that TFT and other orgs
    >>>> are
    >>>>> pushing at us. In the end, the administrators who are now
    >>>>> being used as patsies to set up a system where our schools
    >>>> are
    >>>>> sold out...they are going to suffer the same fate as the
    >>>>> teachers. They will be useless within the new system where
    >>>>> administrators are already being trained to takeover
    >>>> schools.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Since you are retired I have a suggestion to make. Share
    >>>> your
    >>>>> knowledge and experience to join into the growing political
    >>>>> backlash against Common Core in Texas schools. I see
    >>>> teachers
    >>>>> who are "retiring" (getting so burnt out that they pack up
    >>>> and
    >>>>> leave) and they allow the system to beat them up.
    >>>> Experienced
    >>>>> teachers, such as yourself, who know how the classroom is
    >>>>> supposed to run when teachers have autonomy are needed in
    >>>> the
    >>>>> behind-the-scenes pushback movement. Do a search for Texas
    >>>> Opt
    >>>>> Out and you will read about the brewing firestorm. Jump in.
    >>>>> We need you because you are honest and willing to speak
    >>>> out.
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>> On 10/24/14, shill wrote:
    >>>>>> I DO agree that C-Scope really WASN'T for MY classroom,
    >>>> but
    >>>>>> I could tell THAT after USING it the first year without
    >>>>>> anyone having to inform me on some chat board. In fact,
    >>>>>> that's EXACTLY why I quit using it! It wasn't fit for ANY
    >>>>>> classroom as far as I am concerned. However I wish someone
    >>>>>> had told ADMINISTRATION that when C-Scope leased their
    >>>>>> product to them and subsequently when admin forced it down
    >>>>>> all of the teachers' throats. Also, I don't remember
    >>>> saying
    >>>>>> that my students and district were so wonderful. Some
    >>>>>> students were, some weren't, probably like most districts.
    >>>> I
    >>>>>> DO know that districts want higher test scores and that
    >>>> many
    >>>>>> of them will glom onto anything that they think will help
    >>>>>> them get them....including scams like C-Scope. If I was
    >>>>>> doing something wrong, then it was the responsibility of
    >>>>>> administration to tell me exactly WHAT that was, and maybe
    >>>> I
    >>>>>> could have corrected it. I repeat, C-Scope = scam.


    Posts on this thread, including this one

  • re: C-Scope, What a Scam!, 10/24/14, by shill.
  • Re: re: C-Scope, What a Scam!, 10/25/14, by jump in against the scamS.
  • Re: re: C-Scope, What a Scam!, 10/25/14, by muinteoir.
  • Re: re: C-Scope, What a Scam!, 10/25/14, by newsflash to muinteoir.
  • Re: re: C-Scope, What a Scam!, 10/26/14, by muinteoir.
  • Re: re: C-Scope, What a Scam!, 10/26/14, by answer.
  • Re: re: C-Scope, What a Scam!, 10/27/14, by 1administrator.
  • Re: re: C-Scope, What a Scam!, 10/27/14, by thanks for letting us know.
  • Re: re: C-Scope, What a Scam!, 10/28/14, by PsyGuy.
  • Re: re: C-Scope, What a Scam!, 10/28/14, by PsyGuy.
  • Re: re: C-Scope, What a Scam!, 10/28/14, by PsyGuy.
  • Re: re: C-Scope, What a Scam!, 10/28/14, by PsyGuy.
  • Re: re: C-Scope, What a Scam!, 10/28/14, by PsyGuy.
  • Re: re: C-Scope, What a Scam!, 9/06/16, by Cscope still alive? ....Oldie.