Re: Alternative teaching certification
    Posted by: Casey on 9/08/16
    () Comments

    I have not subbed, but I do plan on doing
    so before signing up for a program.
    Teaching has always been an occupation
    that I've been interested in, but I've
    just wanted to be a game warden more;
    however now that I'm getting married and
    plan on having kids, long hours,
    dangerous conditions and alot of
    traveling is not something I want to put
    my family and I through.

    On 9/08/16, Zoe wrote:
    > I am a middle school teacher. The kids
    are challenging at
    > times, but overall I love this age the
    best. Have you subbed
    > at all, or visited schools? What is
    driving your decision to
    > teach? I really encourage you to do
    some subbing (even just a
    > few days) and see what you are signing
    up for before you spend
    > the time and money on certification.
    Talk to some teachers
    > about their students and their days.
    >
    > Good luck!
    >
    > On 9/08/16, Casey wrote:
    >> Would I have an easier time finding a
    job
    >> as a middle school teacher? I've never
    >> known a middle school teacher
    personally
    >> so I don't know how hard that age
    range
    >> is to teach or what time they get off
    >> everyday.
    >>
    >> On 8/16/16, Paris wrote:
    >>> None of the ACP programs are any
    better
    >> than the
    >>> others as far as finding a job. A
    >> principal will look at
    >>> your resume and quickly find that you
    >> weren't trained
    >>> at a college or university. Some
    >> principals have a bias
    >>> against teachers who were not trained
    >> through a
    >>> university.
    >>>
    >>> I would strongly recommend Texas
    >> Teachers because
    >>> they have a clinical teaching option,
    >> which is very
    >>> much like student teaching.
    Elementary
    >> teachers are a
    >>> dime a dozen, unless you know someone
    >> who is an
    >>> administrator who can hire you, you
    >> will otherwise be
    >>> waiting a very long time to get an
    >> internship in
    >>> elementary. There are lots of
    >> elementary teachers
    >>> coming out of universities who are
    >> fully certified. Why
    >>> hire an intern at full salary who has
    a
    >> few weeks of
    >>> seminars and hasn't seen the inside
    of
    >> a classroom
    >>> since they were a student?
    >>>
    >>> If you must do the internship route
    due
    >> to financial
    >>> reasons, even if you want to
    ultimately
    >> teach
    >>> elementary, you would be better
    >> certifying in special
    >>> education or ESL just to do the
    >> internship and get
    >>> certified.
    >>>
    >>> The Texas Teacher route is pretty
    >> simple. You apply,
    >>> and once you are accepted and pay the
    >> initial fee, you
    >>> get a letter from them that allows
    you
    >> to start looking
    >>> for an internship (job). It's not too
    >> late for some high
    >>> needs areas that are almost all
    special
    >> education or
    >>> ESL vacancies.
    >>>
    >>> Once you get the letter you are
    >> approved to take the
    >>> content area certification exam. Most
    >> of these can be
    >>> taken year round, and are
    administered
    >> online. The
    >>> exams are 5 hours long. You need to
    >> take the exams
    >>> for certification and to demonstrate
    >> highly qualified
    >>> status.
    >>>
    >>> At the time of admission into the
    >> program you have to
    >>> choose whether to do your seminars
    >> online or do
    >>> them in person. The online seminars
    you
    >> can do on
    >>> your own time and at your own pace,
    but
    >> there are
    >>> points in the presentations that you
    >> have to respond
    >>> to questions. If you do the in person
    >> seminars you
    >>> only need to attend and sit in the
    room
    >> to complete
    >>> the program.
    >>>
    >>> Once you have an internship, you will
    >> apply for a 1
    >>> year probationary certificate and
    will
    >> start working.
    >>> Texas Teachers will assign you an
    >> internship
    >>> supervisor who will observe your
    >> teaching once
    >>> during each semester. Your school
    will
    >> also assign you
    >>> a faculty member to be your mentor.
    At
    >> the end of the
    >>> year you must score satisfactory on
    >> your T-TESS
    >>> (formally PDAS) and your principal
    >> makes a final
    >>> recommendation to approve you for
    >> certification
    >>>
    >>> Near the end of your internship in
    >> April or May you will
    >>> be approved to take the PPR exam.
    This
    >> is the exam
    >>> certification programs are evaluated
    >> on. Texas
    >>> Teachers takes it very seriously. If
    >> you fail you have to
    >>> do some test preparation workshops
    with
    >> Texas
    >>> Teachers. You may only take the PPR a
    >> total of three
    >>> times, after that you can no longer
    >> receive approval to
    >>> register for and take the exam, and
    >> without passing
    >>> the exam you can not be certified.
    >>>
    >>> If everything goes well you will be
    >> able to apply for the
    >>> Standard certificate.
    >>>
    >>> The other option is clinical
    teaching.
    >> This is a 12 week
    >>> program in a school where you work
    with
    >> another
    >>> teacher directly in their classroom.
    >> You are basically
    >>> an assistant teacher. In the
    beginning
    >> you mostly do
    >>> observations for a few weeks in
    >> different classrooms,
    >>> and more and more take over
    >> responsibilities in the
    >>> classroom, by the end of the 12 weeks
    >> you're
    >>> essentially running the class by
    >> yourself for a week,
    >>> though the supervising teacher is
    still
    >> in the room.
    >>>
    >>> Aside from the reduced time
    commitment
    >> of only 12
    >>> weeks, you must pay for the entire
    >> program upfront. If
    >>> you obtain an internship Texas
    Teachers
    >> will do a
    >>> payroll reduction during the
    >> internship.
    >>> You also have less of a workload. You
    >> aren't creating
    >>> daily lessons, grading assignments,
    or
    >> a lot of the
    >>> everyday things teachers do to teach
    >> every day.
    >>> Lastly, you have a little more time
    to
    >> take the
    >>> certification exams. You don't need a
    >> probationary
    >>> certificate to do clinical teaching
    so
    >> you can wait on
    >>> the content exam. You won't be
    >> certified until you take
    >>> both the PPR and content exam, but
    you
    >> can schedule
    >>> them at the end of the clinical
    >> teaching over the
    >>> winter/summer break if you want to.
    >>>
    >>> It's not too late for clinical
    teaching
    >> and it's the only
    >>> way I see you getting elementary
    >> education certified
    >>> anytime soon.
    >>>
    >>> It wasn't difficult for me to find a
    >> job when I did mine,
    >>> but my area was health science
    >> technology. I know a
    >>> LOT of teachers in elementary who
    >> applied for the
    >>> program and waited and waited before
    >> getting
    >>> certified in something else just so
    >> they could get an
    >>> internship.
    >>>
    >>> If you want a better program, I would
    >> recommend a
    >>> Post-Bachelor's program. These are 1
    >> year (Summer,
    >>> Fall, Spring, Summer) programs
    offered
    >> by education
    >>> departments in colleges and
    >> universities. They are
    >>> basically a minor in education (15-18
    >> hours) plus
    >>> student teaching. Of course you pay
    >> tuition but you
    >>> qualify for financial aid (student
    >> loans and a little bit of
    >>> grant money), there are some
    >> scholarships for math
    >>> and science at certain colleges and
    >> universities.
    >>> These programs take longer and cost
    at
    >> least twice as
    >>> much. It's very difficult and many
    >> colleges officially
    >>> prohibit you from working during
    >> student teaching.
    >>>
    >>> Whatever you learn in Texas Teachers
    is
    >> going to
    >>> depend almost entirely on your mentor
    >> teacher and
    >>> the support you get at your school.
    The
    >> seminars
    >>> aren't worth very much, and you don't
    >> really practice
    >>> anything. You won't learn much in a
    >> university either.
    >>> You spend a lot of time making lesson
    >> plans you aren't
    >>> really going to use and studying
    >> theories that are
    >>> decades old that you will also never
    >> use.
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> On 8/11/16, Casey wrote:
    >>>> Hello everyone, I am considering
    >> beginning
    >>>> a career as a teacher and want to
    know
    >> the
    >>>> steps I have to take to receive an
    >>>> alternative teaching certification.
    >> What
    >>>> program is the best? (Easiest or or
    >> gives
    >>>> me a better chance at getting a job)
    >> Ive
    >>>> looked at the texasteacher
    program.has
    >>>> anyone done the paid internship
    route?
    >> If
    >>>> so how was each part of the process?
    >> Was
    >>>> it difficult to find a job
    afterwards?
    >> Are
    >>>> there any better programs to look
    at?
    >> Also
    >>>> is it to late for me to start since
    >> school
    >>>> is starting in a week or two? I'm
    >> looking
    >>>> to be certified in elementary in the
    >>>> plano/garland area. Thanks for any
    >> help!


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  • Alternative teaching certification , 8/11/16, by Casey.
  • Re: Alternative teaching certification , 8/11/16, by Zoe.
  • Re: Alternative teaching certification , 8/16/16, by Paris.
  • Re: Alternative teaching certification , 9/08/16, by Casey.
  • Re: Alternative teaching certification , 9/08/16, by Zoe.
  • Re: Alternative teaching certification , 9/08/16, by Casey.
  • Re: Alternative teaching certification , 9/09/16, by Casey.
  • Re: Alternative teaching certification , 9/10/16, by Paris.
  • Re: Alternative teaching certification , 9/10/16, by Paris.
  • Re: Alternative teaching certification , 9/21/16, by Casey.
  • Re: Alternative teaching certification , 12/28/16, by Anonymous.